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Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:36 pm to Schmelly
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Oh come on now
You're going to make me sound like im hating on the guy, but Fowler catches this ball and Schwarber is still playing if he isnt venturing into center field to try and make this catch. Something that may have been preventable with more seasoning and polish
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How many of those players had about 1 year of pro ball under their belt & shot up through the minors like 87 year olds dick on viagra?
Well we are talking about guys all under 25. They were all young and got up to the MLB quickly. Some are good, some are bad.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:39 pm to Lester Earl
The one who went from a player a .300/.406/.531 to .260/.404/.525...
His average took a nosedive from him being a 40 double/40 home run threat in Oak to a 20/40 threat with the Yankees. His strikeouts went up dramatically, so he went from being a solid all-around hitter to a 3 outcome hitter.
32.8 WAR in Oak
25.1 WAR in NYY
His average took a nosedive from him being a 40 double/40 home run threat in Oak to a 20/40 threat with the Yankees. His strikeouts went up dramatically, so he went from being a solid all-around hitter to a 3 outcome hitter.
32.8 WAR in Oak
25.1 WAR in NYY
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:40 pm to GynoSandberg
Ironically, the person with the best chance to catch that was Schwarber. I don't think seasoning or polish had anything to do with what was a freak injury.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:42 pm to GynoSandberg
Plus plus defensive CF Almora went into LF to almost injure Bryant recently. shite happens.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:42 pm to tduecen
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The one who went from a player a .300/.406/.531 to .260/.404/.525...
His average took a nosedive from him being a 40 double/40 home run threat in Oak to a 20/40 threat with the Yankees. His strikeouts went up dramatically, so he went from being a solid all-around hitter to a 3 outcome hitter.
Interesting how the numbers took a hit when he wasn't juicing any more.*
*Read as "when it was slightly more difficult to juice and people were slightly afraid of getting caught doing it."
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:45 pm to Maximus
Tbm stirring a lot of pots in this thread
Posted on 7/25/16 at 1:59 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
How?
Maybe it has something to do with guys who arent familiar play OF? I dont know what the OFs are saying to each other on those particular plays, but CF always has first right to the ball
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Plus plus defensive CF Almora went into LF to almost injure Bryant recently. shite happens.
Maybe it has something to do with guys who arent familiar play OF? I dont know what the OFs are saying to each other on those particular plays, but CF always has first right to the ball
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:06 pm to GynoSandberg
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:06 pm to tduecen
So do you still contend that a player that went 260/404/525 was a let down after his first season? A guy that got MVP votes in 4 of 7 seasons with the Yanks.
Do you know how much money a player with that line would make today?
Get a grip of reality buddy
Do you know how much money a player with that line would make today?
Get a grip of reality buddy
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:17 pm to Lester Earl
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A guy that got MVP votes in 4 of 7 seasons with the Yanks.
Do you know how much money a player with that line would make today?
Get a grip of reality buddy
Let's look after his first season.... his second season was fine, although not as good as the first
.250/.412/.527 strikeouts ballooned to 140
.208/.342/.379 really bad but only played half the season
.271/.440/,535 nice bounceback season
.253/.413.558 three outcome player again
after that the wheels basically come off and he became useless with one final ok season .243/.373/.502
So yes after his first season it was a let down considering what you expected from him. A solid all around hitter to one that became home-run, strikout, or walk only.
Half of his WAR came in the first 2 years of the deal when he put up 7.0 and 5.3.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:21 pm to tduecen
Do you have any context on what is an above average OBP and SLG ?
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:24 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Yup and as I've mentioned several times he went from being a good all around hitter to a 3 outcome hitter. He was the Yankees version of Adam Dunn that doesn't mean he still wasn't a let down.
Do you have any context on what is an above average OBP and SLG ?
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:37 pm to tduecen
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Half of his WAR came in the first 2 years of the deal when he put up 7.0 and 5.3.
Half of his WAR in Oak came in 2 years too. So what?
He played a full season more in Oak & didhf DH as much. Of course he accumulated more WAR
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:39 pm to tduecen
Y'all mofo's need to relax. All I really meant by it was that Giambi hit some BOMBS. And so would Schwarbs. Didn't know I was gonna ignite an argument. Lol
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:40 pm to GynoSandberg
i see Kris Bryant there.proved correct on him. List must be legit
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:42 pm to tduecen
You're not doing very good job of spinning this. He walked much more frequently as a Yankee, which made up for the lack of hits. It's 2016, no one cares about your batting average when you have a .400 OBP
You realize there are 7 guys in the majors with 400+ OBP?
Giambi did that over 7 years. And you're gonna say he was a let down outside of 1 year. Lol
You realize there are 7 guys in the majors with 400+ OBP?
Giambi did that over 7 years. And you're gonna say he was a let down outside of 1 year. Lol
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:44 pm to Lester Earl
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You're not doing very good job of spinning this. He walked much more frequently as a Yankee, which made up for the lack of hits. It's 2016, no one cares about your batting average when you have a .400 OBP You realize there are 7 guys in the majors with 400+ OBP? Giambi did that over 7 years. And you're gonna say he was a let down outside of 1 year. Lol
Yeah, saying Giambi was a let down is laughable
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:46 pm to Schmelly
I just wish more people on here would look into things before they say dumb shite. But I guess that's what makes it fun
Posted on 7/25/16 at 2:48 pm to Lester Earl
quote:He became a 3 out come player, he was not the player the Yankees expected when they first acquired him or the player he was the last 3 seasons in Oakland.
He walked much more frequently as a Yankee, which made up for the lack of hits. It's 2016, no one cares about your batting average when you have a .400 OBP
quote:Currently? Ok in 03 he ranked 10th in OBP
You realize there are 7 guys in the majors with 400+ OBP?
2004 he was outside of the top 10 in OBP and outside of the top 10 AL, 2005 he was #2 in OBP and #1 in AL, 2006 not in the top 10 MLB, #6 in the AL etc... we are talking 10 years ago, not sure why we are comparing them to numbers today... When most offensive numbers are down.
The fact he was a let down for the Yankees after the first season. Apparently that triggers something inside of you.
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