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re: MJ Resume Through 1st 11 full NBA season vs LeBron Resume Through 11 NBA seasons
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
The point was that the Heat had a better roster. Two top 15 players. Without LeBron's salary on the books they would've been competing for first in the East still.
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:11 pm to Chillini
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Without LeBron's salary on the books they would've been competing for first in the East still.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:12 pm to SPEEDY
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0 First Round Exits
Pretty impressive
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
What's so laughable? That frees up so much money for better role players. Wade doesn't sit out a portion of the year and Bosh plays like he did in Toronto with an expanded role.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:18 pm to JJ27
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Uhhhh the guy that tried to make a super team. Jordan didn't join up with Barkley and Ewing.
in 2 out of 4 Finals the Heat lost b/c RC and Pop out coached Spo big time.
Hell, it took a miracle shot for the Heat to stay in it to win last year.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:19 pm to Chillini
Wait, are you saying the Heat would have been better off this year without Lebron James?
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:22 pm to Chillini
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What's so laughable? That frees up so much money for better role players. Wade doesn't sit out a portion of the year and Bosh plays like he did in Toronto with an expanded role.
So the heat would be better with 2-3 role players instead of LeBron?
That's a hell of a theory.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:24 pm to boosiebadazz
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Wait, are you saying the Heat would have been better off this year without Lebron James?
He is saying that, like an MJ less Bulls in the middle of their run, they could have still performed well in the weak East with the extra $20 million to add some players.
He was countering what Adam Banks said that the Heat would basically be the worst team in the NBA with it's current roster minus LBJ.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:24 pm to stout
Ohhh, ok. That's more reasonable.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:26 pm to stout
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He was countering what Adam Banks said that the Heat would basically be the worst team in the NBA with it's current roster minus LBJ.
ETA I never said anything like that. All I said was that Jordan less bulls went for 55 wins and advanced in the playoffs.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:27 pm to Chillini
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That frees up so much money for better role players.
they're already over the cap and can't just add a bunch of role players if that money was gone
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Wade doesn't sit out a portion of the year
he can't do that anymore. his body will break down
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:28 pm to Sun God
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So the heat would be better with 2-3 role players instead of LeBron?
That's a hell of a theory.
Keep spinning. That freed up money (roughly 20 mill) would be spent improving the roster as a whole. Not just on one player.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:29 pm to Chillini
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That freed up money (roughly 20 mill) would be spent improving the roster as a whole.
what exception would allow teh heat to spend $20M?
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they're already over the cap and can't just add a bunch of role players if that money was gone
Not now but the last year or two he means.
Current roster minus LBJ and using his salary to add another player or two.
I see what he is saying in that they could still have been very competitive in the East like the Bulls were without MJ
LBJ and MJ though are both what puts those teams in the Finals ultimately though.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
ggez Slow, just pretend they have some Bird Rights and the MLE to blow $20 mil on a better supporting cast. you gotta have some imagination.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:33 pm to stout
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Not now but the last year or two he means.
even then. they are over the cap and have 1-2 exceptions they could use. that's it
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Current roster minus LBJ and using his salary to add another player or two.
it doesn't work that way. over the cap is over the cap. as long as their owner is willing to pay the luxury tax, that's all that will be affected (with the new CBA their exceptions are limited, but it's not that great)
also, that argument ignores what LBJ brings in terms of viability. ray allen passed up money to go to the heat. he wouldn't have done that without lebron. that savings is a role player itself (in terms that actually allow them to sign one). LBJ gets guys to sign for the vet min as role players.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:33 pm to stout
Yeah, even if I agreed with the premise (and I'm not sure I do), they don't have a 2/4 without LeBron.
More likely, it's a 0/...well, 0.
More likely, it's a 0/...well, 0.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:34 pm to ATLTiger
Just amnesty LeBron instead of Miller 2 years ago for this situation haha
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:39 pm to Mattwells90
Bulls won 55 games without Jordan
Cavs won 19 games without Lebron
Cavs won 19 games without Lebron
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:42 pm to VerlanderBEAST
frick
now i have to rethink things
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VerlanderBEAST
now i have to rethink things
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