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re: Michigan football: max satisfaction beating lower-tier teams
Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:21 pm to LSUbase13
Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:21 pm to LSUbase13
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At the end of the day, Wisconsin is a "fine" team. They are big, disciplined, white, and slow. Not that is necessarily a bad thing. But, Wisconsin is at the pinnacle of what they are
Didn't look that slow against bama, LSU, Auburn, Miami...
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:26 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Wisconsin is 5-5 versus Michigan in the last ten games.
3 of the last 4 baw
Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:32 pm to Chucktown_Badger
When was the last time your team (Wisc) had a game where your oline played poorly? 
Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:34 pm to Chucktown_Badger
quote:Yet we are just not seeing Wisconsin take advantage of UM on the recruiting trail (not that it matters, since recruiting is not correlated 100% with successful seasons)
Today's recruits were born in 2001. Wisconsin has been a superior program to Michigan since then. Yes, Michigan is living on their old arse history, but recruits today haven't been alive when Michigan has been better, save one or two seasons.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Yet we are just not seeing Wisconsin take advantage of UM on the recruiting trail (not that it matters, since recruiting is not correlated 100% with successful seasons)
Agreed. Harbaugh has recruited well but it hasn't necessarily translated. And for the guy who is allegedly the quarterback whisperer, they've been pretty terrible at that position. I'm sure you'd agree.
I just think if you're a Michigan fan you should be demanding more than what you've been getting. I could recruit a top 20 class to Michigan.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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When was the last time your team (Wisc) had a game where your oline played poorly?
We love our hogs up front. O line u, you could say.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:02 am to Chucktown_Badger
quote:Here's how I see it
Agreed. Harbaugh has recruited well but it hasn't necessarily translated. And for the guy who is allegedly the quarterback whisperer, they've been pretty terrible at that position. I'm sure you'd agree.
I give him props for the 2015 season: vegas expected 6-6/7-5, he went 10-3, where one of the losses was a wtf fluke of epic proportions that was beyond anybody's control.
2016, one terrible ref spot away from going to big ten title game. JT was absolutely short. Period. Nobody will convince me otherwise. Loss to Iowa that year was bad, though. Offense struggled later in season.
2017- lost most production of any team, so a stepback was expected. Offense and QB way worse than anyone thought.
Harbaugh deserves prop for a 2015 overpeformance.
2016 was gut wrenching because of osu ending.
2017 was bad on offense and playcalling was arse- there were some staff changes, so maybe that will help.
I think michigan is going to be good this year. I think Shea patterson is a perfect QB for harbaugh, and the defense, which finished season ranked top 3 I think, only has to replace ONE starter.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:10 am to Bunk Moreland
A successful season is beat OSU and MSU, win every home game, win the bowl game.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:13 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Fair assessment.
Harbaugh was kind of against the rent a qb system, but isn't patterson gonna be his 3rd?
Osu was short, i agree. frick them.
Harbaugh was kind of against the rent a qb system, but isn't patterson gonna be his 3rd?
Osu was short, i agree. frick them.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:33 am to zzgobucky
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No kid under 16 has really seen a season where Michigan football finished better than Wisconsin except maybe a season or two
Shoot I'm 28 and I tend to see Wisconsin as a better overall program than Michigan since I really started paying attention to college football about 11 years ago.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 6:30 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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2016, one terrible ref spot away from going to big ten title game. JT was absolutely short. Period. Nobody will convince me otherwise.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 7:28 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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Shoot I'm 28 and I tend to see Wisconsin as a better overall program than Michigan since I really started paying attention to college football about 11 years ago.
I would have to agree, but head to head matchup aside, Wisconsin's division schedule is always a joke. Swap Michigan and Wisconsin and we would be having a very different conversation IMO.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 7:35 am to taylork37
Wisconsin plays in the weaker West division. If they were in the East let's say swapped with Indiana they'd be a .500 program in the big ten. Wisconsin fans act like college football was invented in 1995.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 7:55 am to nvasil1
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Michigan is generally overrated, but Wisconsin doesn't compare as a program.
Historically, no.
Today, yes.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 7:56 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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When was the last time your team (Wisc) had a game where your oline played poorly?
59-0 perhaps?
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:04 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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they'd be a .500 program in the big ten
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Wisconsin fans act like college football was invented in 1995
Well that’s basically my whole life, and they’ve been as good as any Big 10 school minus OSU during that span. I realize, like most other UW fans, that they were pretty bad before then. But I don’t see anyone trying to compare Wisconsin all time to Michigan. I don’t care what happened 50 years ago, if Michigan and Nebraska fans want to brag about their teams before any of us were alive then go ahead.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:05 am to Chucktown_Badger
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Didn't look that slow against bama, LSU, Auburn, Miami...
I disagree with that - at least for the Alabama and LSU games. It has been a while, but I remember Alabama just absolutely destroying any attempt at a running game. Didn't Wisconsin have 25 attempts for 40 yards?
As for the LSU games, I thought LSU was vastly quicker, faster and more athletic. However, to prove I'm not being biased, I addressed this in a previous post on the SEC Rant (addressing LSU's recent struggles against Midwestern teams):
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Coaching + Quarterback play.
Wisconsin was arguably better both games. I'm fine with admitting that. Melvin Gordon broke a foot off in our arse and thankfully their dumbass coach stopped giving him the ball in the second half. They were definitely better than LSU in the second game. Their defense destroyed us.
As for Notre Dame...ehh...LSU "should have" won both and appeared to be the better team, but props to ND for pulling them out. At best, the two were dead even.
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This post was edited on 7/8/18 at 9:06 am
Posted on 7/8/18 at 9:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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When was the last time your team (Wisc) had a game where your oline played poorly?
Alabama for starters.
Posted on 7/8/18 at 3:28 pm to RLDSC FAN
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+1 apparently the SEC has 14 juggernauts
big 10 has some of the worst college football teams. 4 teams shouldn't even dress out year to year
Posted on 7/8/18 at 5:14 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Michigan has effectively decided to de-emphasize football since Lloyd Carr left.
While old habits die hard, many Ohio State fans now are more concerned about the games with Penn State or Michigan State than with old Blue, whose fans are still living off the glory days from Fielding Yost 100 years ago.
And they certainly have barely been a true OSU rival for the last decade.
Maybe Shea Patterson will change that this year, and Harbaugh can finally get a decent QB to coach. After all Harbaugh did do well at Stanford for that one last year after 2 very poor below .500 years and one mediocre year.
While old habits die hard, many Ohio State fans now are more concerned about the games with Penn State or Michigan State than with old Blue, whose fans are still living off the glory days from Fielding Yost 100 years ago.
And they certainly have barely been a true OSU rival for the last decade.
Maybe Shea Patterson will change that this year, and Harbaugh can finally get a decent QB to coach. After all Harbaugh did do well at Stanford for that one last year after 2 very poor below .500 years and one mediocre year.
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