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Miami - ND game...Catch or no catch?

Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:03 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67502 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:03 pm


Ordinarily on the field, this probably would always be called incomplete.

But,as we learned in the Western Michigan / Michigan game, play (and the clock) immediately stops once a player touches the out of bounds.
Rules seem to be different regarding out of bounds situations.
Seems like he had the ball, with possession, then stepped out of bounds, thus immediately stopping play.

For the record, I hate both Notre Dame and Miami equally.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
16193 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:05 pm to
We've seen that exact play called complete this year so I guess nobody knows what a catch is anymore
This post was edited on 11/8/26 at 12:06 pm
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
5471 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:22 pm to
I mentioned this in the SEC Thread:

1. I hate Notre Dame
2. You've got to watch it in real time, not just slow motion
3. He didn't "complete" the catch. He didn't maintain possession. This isn't like a QB diving to touch pylon in the corner of the endzone or that move Drew Brees was emphasis for (jumping over the center and holding the ball out over the goal line and then bring it back). You've got to complete the catch. He didn't. It was the correct call.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
81616 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:25 pm to
See, that’s all bullshite that we accept for some reason. I guess the NFL rules experts have brainwashed us.

He caught the football. Enough of this over officiating nonsense.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
5471 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

3. Maintains control of the ball long enough to enable that player to

perform an act common to the game, i.e., long enough to pitch or hand

the ball, advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent, etc., and

4. Satisfies paragraphs b, c, and d below.

c. If the player loses control of the ball while simultaneously touching the ground with any part of their body, or if there is doubt that the acts were simultaneous, it is not a catch.


The ball wasn't secure before the ND player knocked it out. Honestly, that's probably the only reason the player was even able to break up the pass. Had Lofton secured it, I don't think the ND player would have even been able to knock it out.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
217264 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:32 pm to
What does your hate for Notre dame have to do with anything???
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
5471 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:33 pm to
If you stop it immediately at the 00:06 mark (watch Lofton's right hand) and immediately at the 00:08 mark (now, notice Lofton's left hand), you can plainly see he didn't have control/
Posted by wareaglepete
Siberia
Member since Dec 2012
20467 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:34 pm to
Agreed. That is a catch and TD if you ask me.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
5471 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:34 pm to
quote:


What does your hate for Notre dame have to do with anything???


I'd rather it be a catch
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8832 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

The ball wasn't secure before the ND player knocked it out. Honestly, that's probably the only reason the player was even able to break up the pass. Had Lofton secured it, I don't think the ND player would have even been able to knock it out.


Correct - there was a bit of a bobble before Talich even knocked it out.

Only Mario Cristobal and Michael Irvin’s coked up arse seem to think it was a catch.
Posted by Irish Knuckles
Nuwallins
Member since Jan 2015
1430 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:37 pm to
the refs just called the play the way it woulda been called if the attempted catch was still in the field of play. woulda been incomplete there as well. if a player establishes possession before the ball breaks the plain then loses it, that's fine, but he never completed the catch, never established possession. this isn't complicated.
This post was edited on 11/8/26 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Raoul Stimulato
Hale Bopp Comet
Member since Sep 2022
2796 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:45 pm to
Slowing it down distorts the reality of the play

Definitely not a catch
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
217264 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by mailman85
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2013
498 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 1:32 pm to
From that replay it looks like a catch.
Posted by thegambler
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
2282 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 4:18 pm to
Catch
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