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re: Merril Hoge's "Reality Board" Rankings for QBs

Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:41 pm to
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Do what? Rodgers has literally the worst pass blocking line in the league


Replace the name Rodgers with Luck or Cutler and I'd agree
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:43 pm to
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I know it is considered blasphemy to not call Peyton the best QB in the league or the GOAT, but the numbers are the numbers.


This reminds me of the myth that is Tom Brady. He's 7-7 in the playoffs with only one 4th quarter comeback over the last 8 years and only has 3-4 great seasons over his entire career.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:43 pm to
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Replace the name Rodgers with Luck or Cutler and I'd agree



Or the Jets. My God. Watching Cutler, Luck, or Sanchez/McElroy drop back was pure suicide this season.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:43 pm to
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Now, Peyton. *Sigh* Guys, Flacco has as many postseason wins and a ring just like Peyton.

I know it is considered blasphemy to not call Peyton the best QB in the league or the GOAT, but the numbers are the numbers.


Posted by Tim Taylor
Member since Feb 2013
392 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:44 pm to
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Replace the name Rodgers with Luck or Cutler and I'd agree


The numbers don't lie. Rodgers, even with his mobility, gets put on his arse more than any other quarterback in the league.

Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:45 pm to
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The numbers don't lie. Rodgers, even with his mobility, gets put on his arse more than any other quarterback in the league.


Have yet to see the numbers.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:47 pm to
My list was a joke. I'd really have Rodgers one and Brees two. I think that Peyton and Brady are both past their prime at this point.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:47 pm to
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Have yet to see the numbers.



LINK

Rodgers was sacked 51 times and hit 85 times.

Second worst in the league.
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 12:48 pm
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:49 pm to
GB's OL really was bad. Footballoutsiders has them as 31st in pass blocking
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

GB's OL really was bad. Footballoutsiders has them as 31st in pass blocking


I was just giving Ryno a lesson in trolling
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:53 pm to
When I see Tiger Ryno post I lose faith in humanity sometimes.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:55 pm to
Whenever Ryno posts, I just think about the threads when he said that the Cowboys would go 14-2 this year and just laugh
Posted by Tim Taylor
Member since Feb 2013
392 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:55 pm to
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This reminds me of the myth that is Tom Brady. He's 7-7 in the playoffs with only one 4th quarter comeback over the last 8 years and only has 3-4 great seasons over his entire career.


Prior to Moss's arrival, he was averaging 26 touchdowns to 13 ints a season. He only had one season with over 4,000 yards and only one season with a completion percentage over 63% (same season). His quarterback ratings in his 6 seasons as a starter before Moss's arrival were: 86.5, 85.7, 85.9, 92.6, 92.3, and 87.9.

Compare Peyton in that same time frame:

31.67 touchdowns to 13.5 touchdowns. 5 seasons over 4,000 yards. 5 seasons completion more than 63% or more passes (62.7% in the other). His qb ratings were 84.1, 88.1, 99, 121.1, 104.1, and 101.

Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61063 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:58 pm to
What is the comparison since Moss' arrival?

I'm not big on Tom Brady, but he has gotten better over his career. It just so happens that when he was at his worst his team was at its best leading to 3 SBs
Posted by Tim Taylor
Member since Feb 2013
392 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:02 pm to
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My list was a joke. I'd really have Rodgers one and Brees two. I think that Peyton and Brady are both past their prime at this point.


I get the sentiment, but Peyton just put up the second highest QB rating of his career. Not to mention his second most passing yards, second most tds, and his highest completion percentage. Granted, I do think it's all downhill from here, but he'll still be extremely productive.

Brady is playing in a dumbed-down Air Raid. Half the quarterbacks in the league could change places with him and keep 90-95% of his numbers.
Posted by iliveinabox
in a box
Member since Aug 2011
24146 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:04 pm to
the man has a concussion problem, leave him be..
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34179 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:07 pm to
Lebron> Kobe











Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61063 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:10 pm to
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Lebron> Kobe


Lebron is an overhyped athlete protected and promoted by the NBA. Not as skilled so he relies on the refs to bail him out, not as much of a man so he runs to a super team to win.

When his athleticism lessens he'll be nothing more than an after thought in Durant's skid marks.
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
9955 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:36 pm to
Flacco ahead of Ryan?
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
9955 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:37 pm to
Hoge took a lot of hits in the NFL..
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 1:39 pm
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