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re: McMurphy accusing Urban Meyer of being aware of domestic abuse allegations in 2015

Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Well. His father's grandson is about to frick him


Just giving context to the question that was asked.



My thoughts.

The police were called in 2015. They were already called so how could Meyer have an obligation to call them when they'd already been called and knew about the incident? Because the police were already involved I'm not sure why it would be a Title IX issue. Then again, I'm no lawyer and I'm not going to pretend to know Title IX inside and out.

Lying about knowing? I have no idea why he wouldn't admit to knowing. It would seem that it couldn't cause him much damage if he told the truth about that. Obviously withholding the fact that he knew is going to cause damage.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:50 pm to
There’s too much money involved for this to go ‘by the book’

I fully expect some shady shite to happen behind the scenes and for OSU to retain Meyer
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10336 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:51 pm to
If I have this correct, Brett McMurphy reported on Zach Smith's multiple domestic abuse allegations on July 22.

This forced Meyer to fire Smith on July 23 and deny his knowledge of the 2015 allegations during B1G Media Days on July 24.

Now McMurphy says he has text messages proving that Meyer lied about the 2015 allegations.

If McMurphy held back the text messages, giving Meyer just enough rope to hang himself during the predictable B1G media onslaught, I will buy him several drinks one day.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:51 pm to
yeah she just gave a 20 minute interview on camera today. cat is out of the bag.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:54 pm to
Timeout...


Is this the same Zach Smith?

LINK
LINK

Dude probably has serious CTE
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:54 pm to
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The police were called in 2015. They were already called so how could Meyer have an obligation to call them when they'd already been called and knew about the incident?
That is my point in this


Urban knowing really isnt a big deal if the cops were made aware. If the cops were made aware and didnt do anything, Urban really cant be blamed at all because it could be assumed Smith didnt do anything wrong

However, him lying about knowing makes people now wonder did he try and payoff cops etc etc and down the rabbit hole we go



It was just colossally fricking dumb to lie
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
4024 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:55 pm to
No. He was a walk-on WR at BGSU and played for Meyer
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24078 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:55 pm to
I guess it's more juicy to focus on Urban because he's the biggest domino that may fall in this scenario but jesus christ frick Zach Smith. What a monster. I feel like the media should focus way more on grilling him than Urban for reporting or not reporting what was happening.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:57 pm to
That was my whole deal at the beginning of this thread. They want someone that’s involved as a 3rd or 4th party to be fired over ALLEGATIONS


Thats a slippery slope IMO
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 2:58 pm
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
20745 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:57 pm to
The players and coaches under Urban's reign throughout his career is startling in itself. Whether he was aware or not, there's been a lot of shadyness out of his programs for a good while. I cant really sit here and act surprised
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:57 pm to
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They want someone that’s involved as a 4th or 5th party to be fired over ALLEGATIONS
Well Urban should be fired now for lying about it


You kinda missed that
Posted by VABuckeye
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Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:58 pm to
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It was just colossally fricking dumb to lie


That's where I am. Why lie at all? There was a police report. Courtney Smith chose not to press charges. Just say you were aware of it.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
4024 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:58 pm to
Exactly. The right answer was to admit that you knew about it and it was handled by the authorities. However, no arrests were made and charges were never filed.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130325 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:58 pm to
Do we even know that Urban DIDN'T report the allegations to tOSU.

He could have been lying to a reporter about knowing about it, but still reported it and nothing was done.

There's really not enough to go on here...yet.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

The right answer was to admit that you knew about it and it was handled by the authorities. However, no arrests were made and charges were never filed.
It was such an easy answer. So. fricking. Easy


Urban has to be a sociopath of some sort. That is the only way this makes any sense to me
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:59 pm to
Lying about knowing about ALLEGATIONS?


I know it’s morally wrong, but a fireable offense?
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
4024 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:59 pm to
He could have reported it, but why lie about it?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

He could have been lying to a reporter about knowing about it, but still reported it and nothing was done.

There's really not enough to go on here...yet.

Which make lying to the media even worse


I am amazed at jsut how dumb/narcissistic Meyer was here
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24230 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 3:00 pm to
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I'm no lawyer and I'm not going to pretend to know Title IX inside and out.


He was supposed to report it to the University Title IX compliance people. His wife had a duty as well since she was employed by OSU.

OSU is trying to figure out at the moment who can be the fall guy other than Urbs. Ignoring DV issues in the current PC climate is a no no. This guy has been with Urban for a long time going back to FL and played for him at Bowling Green. It’s going to be seen as him protecting his boy.


I bet Jim Tressel has a little smile on his face today.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 3:00 pm to
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Do we even know that Urban DIDN'T report the allegations to tOSU. He could have been lying to a reporter about knowing about it, but still reported it and nothing was done. There's really not enough to go on here...yet.



That’s my line of thinking.. I wouldn’t argue for/against either side, but that’s how I feel about it
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