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re: Maybe little Tommy Herman needs a hug and kiss....

Posted on 4/9/17 at 1:27 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 1:27 am to
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but he did a good job last season on short notice


What? He was already the recruiting coordinator when Miles was fired.
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Coaching as a young head coach at ole miss at the time he did and coaching a program like lsu has right now are 2 different animals.


No shite. The expectations are much higher and you get every other sec program's best shot.
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If you cant grasp that concept then idk what to tell you.


So why has he been a position coach for 29 of his 32 years in coaching? Are you saying Alleva found a diamond in the rough?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 1:29 am to
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I mean you were correct about him being a whiny bitch but no need to throw a tantrum.


Its not whining when you're stating facts.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 1:31 am to
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I would just ignore the idiot some people can't see passed their own nose and Rick is one of those people.



I knew more football at age 9 than you ever will.
Just because you've fooled yourself into thinking this was anything but a shite hire doesnt mean other posters are stupid. It just further proves you dont know shite about cfb.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 1:33 am to
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Well we will see how much love you nimrods have for Hermie after he actually leads UT to the toilet next season.

For every "big win" Hermie had at UH I can give you a HUGE loss he had as well. In addition, beating OU isn't going to be looked at as an upset but something expected.

Good luck and you better go get your kissin' and huggin' now.



What huge wins does O have as a head coach? Not some bullshite interim tenure where o didnt run the offense,didnt run the defense,didnt choose the scheme,and didnt chose the coordinators.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 2:06 am to
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After this past recruiting cycle I'm glad we didn't sign that bastard


Oh, it's continuing this recruiting cycle.

This is from EJ Holland on 24/7. I'm pretty sure he is a moderator on the Texas board.
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BTW, I spoke to a parent of another elite recruit this week, and he told me that O blew Tom Herman out of the water when I asked him to compare his LSU/UT visits. That has been the trend. O is doing a phenomenal job in the state of Texas and overall.


https://oklahoma.247sports.com/Board/86/Contents/Jerrell-Cherry-to-LSU-OU-Reference-52102127

I can't believe all the idiots that wanted the one-year-wonder serial-kisser as the head coach of LSU. The guy finished in 6th place in his conference and 4th in his division. THAT was with the most talented team in the conference.

He went 4-3 in his last 7 games. If it came down to hiring him, LSU might as well of kept Les Miles as head coach.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 2:25 am to
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but the attempt to dismiss Herman to justify the actions of our pathetic athletic director is laughable.


Herman did the dismissing himself. He lost 38-16 to SMU. Yes, fricking SMU. Houston was favored by 23 points and lost by 22. If would have been 24 if Houston's defense didn't get a safety in the 4th quarter.

He is an offensive guru and scored 14 fricking points against SMU. He gained 303 yards and 13 first downs against the juggernaut known as SMU.

The last time the offense scored was in the 3rd quarter. Unreal, 14 offensive points against freaking SMU. Liberty scored 14 against SMU. LIBERTY and offensive guru tied for scoring the least amount of points against SMU last season.

As far as I am concerned, there were six AAC coaches that were better than Herman last year. The five that finished ahead of him in the rankings and the SMU coach that whupped his arse as a 23 point dog.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 2:36 am to
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You can bet your arse that if Orgeron were hired as HC by another SEC team everyone here would be laughing their arse off.


Yeah sure, just like if Arkansas had hired him and came to Tiger stadium and kicked LSU's arse. SEC teams for a fact that aren't laughing - Missouri, Ole Miss, Arkansas and TX A&M. They aren't laughing and got their asses kicked by by a TE's coach playing the role of offensive coordinator. Think they are laughing about the upcoming LSU game this season?


From a Bama fan on the SEC Rant:
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Hell, Ed deserves a high approval rating if for no other reason than hauling in a top 10 class in the wake of LSU canning the most successful coach in school history. Couple that with the staff he built and even as a rival fan, I approve of CEO's work thus far.

Doesn't sound like he is laughing.
https://www.secrant.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=69406172&s=2&p=69404290#69406172
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31033 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 2:48 am to
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What huge wins does O have as a head coach? Not some bullshite interim tenure where o didnt run the offense,didnt run the defense,didnt choose the scheme,and didnt chose the coordinators.



Rick, you're making yourself look like an arse. Just stop it.


Everybody gets it, you're not a fan of the O hire. Fair enough.

As you say, the facts are he wasn't successful at Ole Miss. I think everyone will agree on that.


With that being said, and you admitted yourself in this thread you wish him success, why dump on the guy?

Miles was chastised for meddling in the offensive plan and everything, yet now that O is allowing his coordinators, who he trusts to do their job better than he could, you rip him for it. It's a bit of a double standard.

I don't quite follow that.

You've said yourself numerous times that it was time for Miles to go, and I didn't like that either but you can't truthfully say that the offense, with a TE coach acting as the offensive coordinator didn't add a spark to our offense.


Given last season he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I thought he did a great job. (I know, the Alabama game, blah blah blah)

He did last season with what was available to him, as you know.


Give the man a chance. Goodness.
This post was edited on 4/9/17 at 3:01 am
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 7:22 am to
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So when you were shitting on miles you didnt support the team or Miles?



Miles was in the process of shitting the bed and dragging the program down when I was railing on him and supposedly not "supporting" the team Rick. There was evidence that supported this notion for all to see...ergo, reason to shite on Miles.

What you're doing is totally different. You're running Coach O in the ground before the man has even had a chance to fk things up....basically insinuating that there is no way he could ever be successful because of his past mistakes....even though pretty much every string hes pulled in the off-season has been a positive indicator.
You say in one breath that you want Miles gone, then in the next say youd take him back in a second. Make up your fuking mind already....wait, its crystal clear you've made up your mind.
And you want to lecture me about hypocrisy???? Really GTFO here with your bull shite facts and hogwash about Miles and your supposed support of the team.

I can assure you if O cant get the job done, I'll be the first to say run him out of town on a rail!!! But I'd at least like to see a game or two, if its all the same to you, before I come to that conclusion.

Geeezzzzz....you take the cake dude.

This post was edited on 4/9/17 at 7:24 am
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27912 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 7:27 am to
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As far as I am concerned, there were six AAC coaches that were better than Herman last year

If you say so. That means they had seven better than Orgeron.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107963 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 7:47 am to
Tom Herman had some losses last year at Houston that were just stupid, yet lots of people have anointed him as the next great coach.

Thank you Joe Alleva for not hiring him.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9674 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 8:34 am to
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few who still have to be negative. As noted, this thread is not even about Coach O & the haters jump right in.


Not so much haters, but brats who are crying because they didn't get what they wanted. Coach is doing everything right so far. Anyone criticizing him at this point is stupid.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 8:36 am to
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Only on an LSU message board can you see a thread making fun of another team/coach and some idiot fan rolls his own team/coach in response. You sir are an idiot



when you got Captain Caveman as coach of the football team, well some folks don't drink the kool-aid coming from the Athletic Department...


yeah one of us and all
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27912 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:11 am to
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Tom Herman had some losses last year at Houston that were just stupid, yet lots of people have anointed him as the next great coach.

Thank you Joe Alleva for not hiring him.

Yes, thankfully we dodged that bullet and Alleva hired someone with no bad losses.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127476 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:20 am to
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Herman was NEVER coming here.

The issue is that Alleva didn't even try to make Texas overpay for Herman. Still believing Alleva's BS narrative about "not playing any games" in the presser I see.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155931 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:21 am to
Or we could have given Jimbo what he wanted and brought in a proven championship winning coach
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:27 am to
I heard that Herman couldn't make a satisfactory etouffee and that basically took him out of the running.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:54 am to
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The issue is that Alleva didn't even try to make Texas overpay for Herman


And just why in the hell is it the LSU AD's job to make Texas overpay for a coach?

At $5.25 in his first year, Texas way overpaid for a guy who finished sixth in AAC with the most talented team. ** Not the ACC but the AAC ** Navy, SMU and Memphis have been burning up UT's phone trying to schedule a game with them.




Hermster: "Now, what players said they didn't want to kiss me?"
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27326 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:02 am to
Slip him the tongue and see how he reacts.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:04 am to
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The issue is that Alleva didn't even try to make Texas overpay for Herman


And that shite could have backfired and LSU would be stuck paying $6 million a year for a coach that kisses his male players and finished in sixth place in the AAC.

Jesus, talk about other SEC fan-bases laughing at LSU.
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