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re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB

Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:06 pm to
Google is your friend ya lazy bastard.
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10835 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:07 pm to
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I asked for the stats.

Well QBR is a stat so there's that...
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:09 pm to
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Porter Osborne Jr Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB Google is your friend ya lazy bastard.


Or maybe it's because, just for example, in 2010 Bree's had a rating of 90.9 and Ryan 91.00?

OMG a tenth of a point?? Discussion over!!Ryan=best ever!
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71934 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:12 pm to
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Well then Dilfer = Brees who > Marino.... right?


As a playoff QB? Brees is better than those two. Marino has played 18 playoff games to Brees' 9 to Dilfer's 6.

Bress has a QB rating of 103 in the playoffs.

Marino? 77

Dilfer? 66
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:14 pm to
BUT THEY HAVE A RING MARINO DOESN'T.....





































Keep up Ryan sucks because he hasn't won in 3 playoff games... That was the rationale
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39955 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:15 pm to
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Or maybe it's because, just for example, in 2010 Bree's had a rating of 90.9 and Ryan 91.00?

OMG a tenth of a point??


You said it proves Ryan is mediocre/average. I'm just saying Brees is as well 2 out of 3 if that's the case.


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Discussion over!!Ryan=best ever!


Please point to where I said he was the best ever. Or even an elite qb.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71934 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:21 pm to
I follow.


Ryan did suck in his 3 playoff games. It is what it is at this point. That's all you can really judge him on.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:25 pm to
He really didn't...
He was average in 2 of his starts and you could say below avg in 1....

He hasn't done anything to help the Falcons win and I know his QB Rating is 72.8, 69.0, 71.1 in those 3 games but his overall stats have't been horrible. They have just been average at best... maybe that is just my opinion but the Falcons have had bigger issues than Ryan in the 3 playoff games they have faced.
Posted by jacks40
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:54 pm to
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You said it proves Ryan is mediocre/average. I'm just saying Brees is as well 2 out of 3 if that's the case.


Ok if Brees is a mediocre/average qb 2 out of the last 3 years how many years has Ryan been a mediocre/average qb in your opinion these last 3 years?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39955 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 9:17 pm to
None
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 9:34 pm to
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Porter Osborne Jr Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB None


So rather than debate the criteria used to determine who is a good qb or average you would rather play a cat and mouse game trying to use Drew Brees as someone you thought I couldn't DARE say hasn't played well lately?

Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 9:54 pm to
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Good burn














For a 12 year old


herp derp well gosh golly gee I done goofed up on that one.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39955 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 7:30 am to
Cat and mouse? I gave you the criteria in the first post, passer ratings. I used Brees since 95% of this board are Saints fans.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 8:28 am to
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Sure, let's judge an entire career on one game. Sounds fair.


People do worse all the time.

Threads like this are just plain stupid.

Ryan's a good QB who gets a bit overrated because of poor, lazy analysis. He also gets too much criticism from some of his detractors because of poor, lazy analysis.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39955 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 8:40 am to
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People do worse all the time.

Threads like this are just plain stupid.

Ryan's a good QB who gets a bit overrated because of poor, lazy analysis. He also gets too much criticism from some of his detractors because of poor, lazy analysis.


I completely agree with you.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6876 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 8:51 am to
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Okay, so that makes him a poor qb.
yea it really does
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19960 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:46 pm to
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Get over what? I'm saying he's a damn good qb.


Just replied to last post
Posted by swagsurfin7
Founder of the Alex Morgan Fan Club
Member since Dec 2009
6991 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:06 am to
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So Brees has been mediocre/average 2 of the last 3 years as well then.


I hope you're joking
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77313 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:33 am to
Saints fan here. Ryan has made the jump into the 2nd tier this year
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