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Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:05 pm to teke184
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We're referring to what is informally known as "the Notre Dame rule", which means an automatic BCS bid to the school if they finish in the top 8.
well, the other nonAQ schools get an automatic spot if they finish in the top 12...
ND could have been in the Big East two years ago and landed a BCS game with an 8-4 record like UCONN.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:06 pm to WikiTiger
In that regard, you're right. I don't like that Notre Dame or Bama is favored due to their past. I am strictly a proponent of rewarding a program blind of their past. Give a program their due credit for the body of work they accomplished THIS YEAR.
When we were talking earlier about 'tradition', I am largely a proponent of historical games that were played consectuively for over a 100 years ala Harvard and Yale or Army vs Navy. Texas A&M and UT were enough as is...could you imagine if conference realignment cause some of these games to no longer be played? That'd be a damn shame, and unfortunately, those are the type of decisions that are being made.
When we were talking earlier about 'tradition', I am largely a proponent of historical games that were played consectuively for over a 100 years ala Harvard and Yale or Army vs Navy. Texas A&M and UT were enough as is...could you imagine if conference realignment cause some of these games to no longer be played? That'd be a damn shame, and unfortunately, those are the type of decisions that are being made.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:06 pm to rocket31
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well, the other nonAQ schools get an automatic spot if they finish in the top 12...
AND win their conference. there is an extra stipulation.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:06 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:06 pm to TulaneUVA
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And if ND were to start playing in the ACC or BIG10 as a conference member (read: regional games) and did not play the USC's of the world and then lost that identity and tradition, what then
Why would they no longer be able to play USC. At most it's 9 conference games, that leaves 3 OOC games. Look at their schedule again, they played 3 B1G teams and 4 ACC teams counting Pitt. Is dumping Pitt, BC and Wake for B1G teams or vice versa killing their national brand?
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:07 pm to rocket31
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well, the other nonAQ schools get an automatic spot if they finish in the top 12...
and again, do the other independents get the same treatment as ND?
If Army finished top 8, would they be guaranteed a BCS bid?
Nope.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:09 pm to H-Town Tiger
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That's just a silly argument.
Call it what you want...but that's what Notre Dame will argue. They want to be able to play from coast to coast. That includes Boston College to USC...to Michigan State to Miami and/or FSU. They aim to geographically hit as much of the US of A as possible.
And this isn't just a some wild theory I came up with. Trust me, I'm not that smart or crazy
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:14 pm to WikiTiger
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do the other independents get the same treatment as ND?
no, but ND would have easier access to a BCS game if they just simply had to win a conference.
win the B1G every year, no matter your record = BCS game.
win the Big East every year, no matter your record = BCS game.
etc...
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:16 pm to TulaneUVA
n/m
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:16 pm to rocket31
word is UCONN will replace Maryland ya for Big East 2.0
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:18 pm to StraightCashHomey21
yeah, i figured it would be UCONN or Louisville.
from a football standpoint, id rather Louisville. They at least want to be competitive in the sport.
from a football standpoint, id rather Louisville. They at least want to be competitive in the sport.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:19 pm to rocket31
pretty much karma for the teams that left the big east for the acc they have become what they tried to leave 
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:22 pm to StraightCashHomey21
The Big 12 should add Louisville pronto. Great way to link WVU to the conference and a solid football tradition. Even if you only go 12, FSU and L'ville would be the way to go for the Big 12.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:23 pm to TulaneUVA
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Call it what you want...but that's what Notre Dame will argue. They want to be able to play from coast to coast
and being in a conference does not prevent that.
They could play USC if they were in the ACC or B1G, nothing is stopping that. If they were in the ACC they could a game against MSU or Mich if they wanted and they could play BC or Pitt if they were in the B1G. Saying being in a conference would prevent them from playing coast to coast is a red herring, sorry. Just say the truth, they don't want to just because, that's what "tradition" is code for. everything else is just lame excuse making.
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:24 pm to Baloo
i think this is already in the mix, maybe Lville bitching last year about WVU getting in was part of some kinda deal
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:24 pm to StraightCashHomey21
word is also that Maryland stands to make $100 million more in B1G compared to ACC between now and 2020 (6 years of being in conference). Tell me that isn't perking the ears of some other schools (hello FSU).
LINK from CNNsi
LINK from CNNsi
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The University of Maryland stands to make nearly $100 million more in conference revenue by 2020 with its switch from the ACC to the Big Ten, according to projected revenue information presented to the school by Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:27 pm to Baloo
I think Lville is a great "12th" school (or 16th as the case may be). 11 needs to be a bigger splash, let's be honest, only FSU makes that splash right now.
Notice I said 16 not 14 - I want no part of a 14 team league.
Notice I said 16 not 14 - I want no part of a 14 team league.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:27 pm to OrangeBlood
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word is also that Maryland stands to make $100 million more in B1G compared to ACC between now and 2020 (6 years of being in conference). Tell me that isn't perking the ears of some other schools (hello FSU).
In that case, I'm surprised the ACC didn't hold Maryland's feet to the fire then on leaving. Making a show of keeping them there would help play into a larger exit fee than $20m.
Per press reports, the ACC commissioner has already wished them well in the Big Ten.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:28 pm to H-Town Tiger
Being in a conference ties one down to a regional identity and ND wants to be the one national brand in college football.
You can call it a "lame excuse", and maybe it is, but thats not going to change unless we see much more realignment.
ND is quite elitist and they will readily admit as much.
You can call it a "lame excuse", and maybe it is, but thats not going to change unless we see much more realignment.
ND is quite elitist and they will readily admit as much.
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