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re: Manny Machado signs 10 year $300 million contract with Padres
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:55 am to lsufball19
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:55 am to lsufball19
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Someone who has a better understanding of baseball contracts explain this to me. Why, in these mega-long term deals, do the players' yearly salaries grow larger with the life of the contract and not the other way around? They're less productive on the back end as the front end and it makes them harder to move later. It seems like even when they are traded, you're still stuck with paying part of their salary. I'm sure there is a logical reason, but I don't see it.
Time value of money. When possible the teams are going to backload the deal, if they can. See Max Scherzer's contract.
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:56 am to The Seaward
Hosmer’s deal with SD is big time front loaded I think
If you are making like one or two big time signings to supplement a young core I think it makes sense to front load if you can, pay those guys more before your youngsters hit arbitration
If you are making like one or two big time signings to supplement a young core I think it makes sense to front load if you can, pay those guys more before your youngsters hit arbitration
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:57 am to Lsuhoohoo
This is a really solid deal for the Padres.. They have some solid young players coming into the fold and a solid farm of young pitchers they will start bringing up over the next couple years.. Hes the the bat they need to maybe put it all together in the next 2-4 years
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:59 am to Chad504boy
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nice irrelevant spot for him to park the rest of his career.
I’d gladly get paid 30 mil to live in San Diego. He will have every fall off too
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:00 pm to Chad504boy
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Padres executive chairman Ron Fowler: “We do not have a deal. We are continuing discussions.”
They're likely going to need to see him sprint to first to finalize the deal...which could make the deal fall apart.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:01 pm to The Seaward
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Time value of money. When possible the teams are going to backload the deal, if they can. See Max Scherzer's contract.
How is it a benefit to the franchise to continue paying a player $15 million per year for 7 additional years after his contract expires (that's at least my understanding of his contract)? I'm thinking more along the lines of someone like Arod. He signed a $250 million dollar contract with the Rangers in 2000. He's traded to the Yankees for Soriano and a minor league player in 2004, yet the Rangers were still stuck paying about a 1/3 of his remaining salary. Just seems like whenever a team signs a player to a huge deal like this unless they're someone like the Yankees, it never works out for them. They tie up all their money into one guy, and when he isn't producing at his pay level anymore, they can't move him and get equal value and end up screwed ultimately.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:02 pm to lsufball19
I think they could’ve gotten Machado for 250 million instead of 300 million. I wonder if the Nats regret the Corbin contract. Probably could’ve had Harper back if they didn’t sign Corbin.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:04 pm to lsufball19
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How is it a benefit to the franchise to continue paying a player $15 million per year for 7 additional years after his contract expires?
I mean it isn't, but I guess it is better for them because $15 million then is less valuable than $15 million now.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:05 pm to lsufball19
I am not telling that this contract will age well because most position player contract don’t. However machado is only 26, if you can get 4 prime years out of him plus whatever he is like on the back end than you have a great deal.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:05 pm to lsufball19
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How is it a benefit to the franchise to continue paying a player $15 million per year for 7 additional years after his contract expires
It’s not that much. Greinke has the most deferred money I think and it’s like 12m a year over 5 years which is still a lot. Davis is like 3m a year over a really long period of time.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:12 pm to The Seaward
If Machado does have any kind of opt-out, then it would definitely benefit the team to be a backloaded deal.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:13 pm to Lsuhoohoo
So is the system still broken and are the players still going to strike?
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:14 pm to Lsuhoohoo
They'll trade him before the trade deadline of year 2 in that deal when they are still out of the playoffs.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:14 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Lol hope they have fun dealing with that a-hole
Guy has averaged 159 games played from his age 22 to age 25 seasons while also averaging 93/36/96 with an OPS+ of 129
sign me up for that a-hole
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:16 pm to The Seaward
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I mean it isn't, but I guess it is better for them because $15 million then is less valuable than $15 million now.
I guess what I'm saying is, wouldn't it be better for everyone to have all these big contracts front loaded? It gives the team more options once the player's production goes down to either cut bait or give them the cap flexibility to sign more players. And, on the flip side, the player is still making the same money regardless. I guess, sure, inflation comes into play in some ways, but how often do these types of contracts actually work out for the franchises like they intended them to? Seems like being stuck in a situation like the Angles would be a cautionary tale. Having one of the highest payrolls in baseball and still finishing with a losing record three straight years and missing the playoffs the last four, one would think, would have GMs reevaluating how they conduct contract negotiations, especially considering about 18% of their entire payroll is tied up into a 39** year old player on his last legs.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:16 pm to GynoSandberg
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Guy has averaged 159 games played from his age 22 to age 25 seasons while also averaging 93/36/96 with an OPS+ of 129 sign me up for that a-hole
Great player, clubhouse cancer
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:16 pm to TigerCruise
Well now the Padres at least have a legit lineup. My next question is, what do they do now about pitching? They have the worst all around pitching in the rotation and bullpen and if they win sooner rather than later, they need to get MUCH better in the pitching department.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:17 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Manny needs to go buy the biggest home in Encinitas
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:20 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
They have like 6 top 150 pitching prospects coming up in the next couple years. Might make sense to consolidate some of them but at least a couple of those will work out
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:22 pm to jackwoods4
la jolla bruh
hed clean up at USD
hed clean up at USD
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