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Lowest Finals Ratings In Recorded History

Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:59 pm
Posted by PTLSU
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:59 pm
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This is what happens when you paint an organization name that represents division on your courts and let players put political messages on their jerseys. The NBA gave the players what they wanted, and now it’s going to hit their wallets.

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A trend of low ratings throughout the NBA postseason has now reached the NBA Finals. And hit it hard. Game 1 of the Finals between the Los Angeles Lakers and Miami Heat brought in only 7.41 million viewers to ABC, according to The Hollywood Reporter. That is reportedly the lowest viewership seen for the Finals since at least 1994, when total viewers began to be regularly recorded.

Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15180 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:00 pm to
Take it to the Proud Boys Board
Posted by LouisianaJoseph
Denver
Member since Apr 2018
1392 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:25 pm to
Sensitive beta bitch
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:42 pm to
Yeah but what about in pre-recorded history? How do we know it wasn't lower for the 23 BC Finals?
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 10:45 pm
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28395 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:48 pm to
Stating facts and you get butt-hurt. Interesting...
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66523 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:03 pm to
Some facts some opinions.
Posted by IneffableSyzygy
Member since Jul 2020
109 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:55 pm to
If you are foolish enough to think the NBA ratings have anything to do with your cognitive bias, you are truly showing your intelligence.

A) The NBA Finals usually takes place in the summer, when way more people have free time. Not to mention the fact that now the NBA is competing with the NFL and MLB for views on the major sporting networks due to the restarts.

B) The matchup this season is not a highly favorable one. It has been the consensus that the Lakers were the favorites to win the title since the moment the AD trade took place. The Heat making it was a surprise for most people who really wanted to see the Celtics or the Bucks take on Lebron and AD.

C) A large part of the viewing fanbase is being impacted by raging wildfires. Have some sensitivity.

D) The games without the crowds and fan experience, give a feel that is akin to a glorified scrimmage. It's way different to the NFL, because when they scrimmage it is far from what the final product will look like. Without the crowd and added flair of the NBA being there, it sometimes feels like I'm watching a pickup game. Nonetheless, I still enjoy the basketball being played at such a high level.

Take your idiocracy to another board where you can spin your drivel as long as you want. You are a part of the problem in this great nation. The players have a voice and because it interferes with your sacred sports you want to strip it away from them for your own comfortability. Everything that is happening should make you uncomfortable, in fact, I'm glad it does.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 11:56 pm
Posted by irvchilichill1
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2009
720 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:45 am to
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Take your idiocracy to another board where you can spin your drivel as long as you want. You are a part of the problem in this great nation. The players have a voice and because it interferes with your sacred sports you want to strip it away from them for your own comfortability. Everything that is happening should make you uncomfortable, in fact, I'm glad it does.


Wow! Perfect summation and sentiment of many who frequent TD and Pels Rant. That last line is a powerful statement and one that I agree with.

Not gonna further a political discussion in this thread but just had to applaud such an appropriate response/observation to what is exactly wrong with people who are attempting to grossly mischaracterize the symbolic protestations/expressions by athletes in response to social injustice.

It is baffling, but unfortunately not suprising, that people try to influence others to not support individuals who have a constitutional right and moral duty to be a "voice" for a segment of society whose own voice is not recognized, respected, forgotten or has been forever "muted." I digress, GO Pels!!!
Posted by IneffableSyzygy
Member since Jul 2020
109 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 1:26 am to
Thank you so much for your response. I truly wish there were more people like you in this country and on TD. I responded to the OP out of anger, which is something I advise any and all people not to do, but their statements cut deep and I could see the rough point he/she was trying to stir.

I also agree not to take this discussion further on this board, however, as you delve into this issue you begin to see it is so much more than just political. It affects every aspect of certain peoples' lives. Social, economic, political, etc.

However, I do wish there was a peaceful board to discuss what these movements and symbolic acts of expression are about, instead of this ignorance being created around them. I have no problem with people having their own opinions around such things, but it is very easy to dissect and see which people are informed (and formulating their own opinions) versus those who are completely ignorant to the facts of what this movement is about and are essentially mimicking the sentiment of others who are misinformed (which is at the root of the very issue in the ideology these players are trying to create awareness for). And see, I too digress.

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25553 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 8:39 am to
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A) The NBA Finals usually takes place in the summer, when way more people have free time. Not to mention the fact that now the NBA is competing with the NFL and MLB for views on the major sporting networks due to the restarts.



Is that why all network tv starts their new shows in the fall instead of the summer?
People aren't as home as much in the summer, and have fun thigns to do for the most part. IN the Fall, we all get back on a real schedule with school and everyone is at home on a wednesday night with the ability to watch tv if they want.

They played on a Wednesday night. They weren't competing with anyone. There's no football on Wednesday, and you've got the most popular team playing, from one of the largest markets in the country, playing against another very large market team.

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B) The matchup this season is not a highly favorable one. It has been the consensus that the Lakers were the favorites to win the title since the moment the AD trade took place. The Heat making it was a surprise for most people who really wanted to see the Celtics or the Bucks take on Lebron and AD.



It's the Lakers. It's favorable no matter what, and it's against Lebron's former team.

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C) A large part of the viewing fanbase is being impacted by raging wildfires. Have some sensitivity.



13M people live in metro LA. They don't live in the forest. The Lakers have the largest fan base in the country. They don't all live in the forests of california.

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Take your idiocracy to another board where you can spin your drivel as long as you want. You are a part of the problem in this great nation. The players have a voice and because it interferes with your sacred sports you want to strip it away from them for your own comfortability. Everything that is happening should make you uncomfortable, in fact, I'm glad it does.


The problem is these morons in sports thinking that their fans care about their opinions. I have ZERO problem with any american voicing their opinion, just be prepared some people may react negatively to your opinion. There's nothing wrong with Lebron backing BLM if that's what he wants to do. Do it on your own time, not company time. When i'm watchign a pregame show, it should be about basketball, nothing else. The NBA, ESPN, TNT, have all chosen to talk about politics instead of basketball, and they are paying for it.

If you don't think all of that is why the viewership is down, then your blind. There is NO reason why sports viewership shouldn't be up with Covid. almost every golf tournament had higher viewerships this year than last.

Them going all in on BLM, same with the NFL, was a stupid idea. No one new is going to say "hey they like BLM, i'm going to start watching basketball or football now even though i never did before". That's not going to happen. What does happen is a percentage of fans get pissed off by the stances they've taken on the court/field, and quit watching. No one wants to here about Breonna Taylor while watching a basketball game. No one wants to hear about Donald Trump while watching a football game. We just want to watch sports. All of these athletes have huge platforms outside of the 3 hour window they play their sport each week. Do whatever the frick you want outside that playing window, but when you play, just play the fricking game political free. The announcers have had much more to do with this than the players if you ask me. Mark Jackson and JVG were talking about Breonna Taylor DURING ACTUAL LIVE ACTION BEING PLAYED IN THE 4TH QUARTER OF A GAME 7. SHUT THE frick UP AND ANNOUNCE THE GOD DAMN GAME. That right there is why i've watched so little of the playoffs.
I do'nt have a problem with people wanting to stand up for this, and i don't have a problem with them doing it during games like this. It's their right to do so, but that's why the viewership is way down. It's my right to watch or not watch. Actions have consequences. I think they are stupid for doing what they are doing from a business standpoint, and they are finally starting to realize that as well.
There was a way for the NBA and the NFL to make their point and stand up for what they believe in without pissing off so many fans, but they didn't come anywhere close to accomplishing that.

Posted by PNW_TigerSaint
Member since Oct 2016
1019 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 9:31 am to
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Take it to the Proud Boys Board


Yeah! This is the Pels board where we live in denial (Zion's not fat, Lonzo is gonna be great, and Jrue is MVP material).
This post was edited on 10/2/20 at 9:32 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34304 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 11:15 am to
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A) The NBA Finals usually takes place in the summer, when way more people have free time. Not to mention the fact that now the NBA is competing with the NFL and MLB for views on the major sporting networks due to the restarts


Not agreeing with the OP but this isnt a good argument. This is a good time of year for TV and it wasnt even competing with the NFL. "It doesnt count because there were a lot of games 3 days before" doesnt check out.

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B) The matchup this season is not a highly favorable one. It has been the consensus that the Lakers were the favorites to win the title since the moment the AD trade took place. The Heat making it was a surprise for most people who really wanted to see the Celtics or the Bucks take on Lebron and AD.


Wrong again. They Clippers were the favorites.

FWIW I hate politics, I dont vote, I dont have a bias either way. But just for arguments sake you are wrong on a number of points and although I dont fell like the OP at all, I know that the politics and message involved played a part. If you dont think so, you're just being naive for some reason. Before the start of the first game, it was basically a Steven A Smith public service announcement saying that people probably dont care that black people are dying bc of the Breonna Taylor verdict. Then right after that when they went to the panel right before the game, they started off by talking about a nation and city greiving over the injustice of it and BLM.

I didnt change the channel because it didnt bother me. But as it was going on I was thinking to myself man there are going to be a ton of people that hate this and change the channel. The ratings show that that propbably happened a good bit.
This post was edited on 10/2/20 at 11:16 am
Posted by 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
Member since Jun 2018
217 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 11:47 am to
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13M people live in metro LA. They don't live in the forest. The Lakers have the largest fan base in the country. They don't all live in the forests of california.


There are more people that hate the Lakers than they have fans, and I'm sure a lot of them are not too excited about watching the Lakers sweep a team that probably shouldn't be in the finals in the 1st place... at least that's why I'm not watching, has nothing to do with BLM or any politics for that matter.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34304 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 11:50 am to
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a team that probably shouldn't be in the finals in the 1st place


gtfo with that. They earned their trip.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25553 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:05 pm to
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There are more people that hate the Lakers than they have fans,


WHen a team is hated, people watch just to see them lose.

THis was game 1, not game 4 of a sweep. Those that hate the Lakers and want to see them lose should be watching in game 1. If they whip the Heat in Game 2, the rating are going to be even lower.
Posted by 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
Member since Jun 2018
217 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 4:01 pm to
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gtfo with that. They earned their trip.





Yes they earned their way there during an extremely irregular situation... they still are not the best team from the Eastern conference, and will probably get swept by the Lakers.
Posted by 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
Member since Jun 2018
217 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 4:04 pm to
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WHen a team is hated, people watch just to see them lose.



People watch when they think the other team has a shot at an upset... does anyone really think the Heat will upset the Lakers? Why even set yourself up for that type of disappointment, when there is NO proof to even suggest an upset... much more evidence to support a sweep. Who wants to watch that? Especially if you don't like the team with the broom... Now if the Heat can manage to steal game 2, then you will see ratings go up and people watch, but no one thought the Lakers would lose game 1.
This post was edited on 10/2/20 at 4:06 pm
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
3355 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 10:05 pm to
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This is what happens when you paint an organization name that represents division on your courts and let players put political messages on their jerseys. The NBA gave the players what they wanted, and now it’s going to hit their wallets


Or it’s 2020 year of the Covid and the bubble is just weird. Or Lakers/heat is not a sexy matchup to fans. Oh and since you want to claim it’s cause of the politics the Stanley Cup game six had lower numbers than Young Sheldon. That’s actually a ratings fact. Less than 3 million viewers.
Posted by kpop1
Member since Jan 2018
1650 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 7:59 pm to
youtube

Jason Whitlock: American Sports Are Letting Down America.

Very insightful.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71083 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 8:03 pm to
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Yeah but what about in pre-recorded history? How do we know it wasn't lower for the 23 BC Finals?


It was slightly lower. Bronus the Eunuch was an apologist for Carthage which turned a lot of fans off, and he and a crybaby with a unibrow whined their way to Rome and formed a superteam.
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