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re: Longest Home MLB Home Runs "Historical" Discussion.

Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:33 am to
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:33 am to
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So they've upped Hill's drive to 490? The day after, Harry interviewed Mark Grace and said it was 460, and Grace said "460? That was more like 760!"


Yeah, 460 is a joke.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 12:30 pm to
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The day after, Harry interviewed Mark Grace


Pretty sure that was in 1999 and Harry was dead by then
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 1:34 pm to
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Pretty sure that was in 1999 and Harry was dead by then



You may be right, but the Grace quote is accurate.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 3:00 pm to
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. I honestly think people have no idea how far 580+ feet actually is


That’s certainly what it is. They have no idea how far 500 feet is. Most of it has to do with stadiums—we almost never see where huge home runs are ever allowed to actually land, only where they are predicted to have landed we’re there not stands in the way. So we’ve all been conditioned—based 99% on information we’ve consumed on 2-dimension TV—to, in a split second perceive where the ball hit on the bat, the angle we see it come off in limited frame, the speed it comes off in that same limited frame or 2, and sometimes the sound it makes, and compare it to where it lands in the seats relative to where it went out, and the distance we’re given by the production team.

And honestly, if you’ve watched enough baseball, we’re pretty good at predicting those distances before they’ve been given because we’ve seen so many before. We “know” what a 420 ft home run is supposed to look like. We know what a 450 ft home run is supposed to look like. Because we’ve been conditioned take what we see, process it, and just believe what we’re told. But actually taking a tape measure and walking those distances on an open field is a totally different thing. Because we’ve been conditioned to use the field and stadium in our mental calculations. 500 feet is a fricking long way away from home plate.

That said, I don’t think there’s any way Mickey Mantle hit one 565 ft., but he was a fricking freak and it wouldn’t surprise me if he had hit 1 or 2 as far as anybody ever. He may never have lifted a single weight, but was born a specimen and grew up in Oklahoma, probably chopping wood and bailing hay all his life. Cockstrong as a motherfricker.

Though, gun to my head, and all things being equal (ball, wind, etc…), I’d bet that Bonds’ bomb off Percival would have landed farther from home plate than any other home run I’ve ever seen. I’m not sure it’s possible to hit a ball harder. The torque that dude generated was simply unbelievable. Even when he was a lanky little Pirate. Add to that the extra mass and strength he was working with at that point in his career, I’d bet the math would confirm that were it possible to accurately ascertain.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 6:16 pm to
Well said on everything.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 6:19 pm to
there is just such a big gap between "mickey mantle hit the furthest homer ever" and "he could have hit a ball 580 feet and i can use my eyes to determine the distance"

the former is absolutely reasonable. the latter is beyond laughable
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 6:54 pm to
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there is just such a big gap between "mickey mantle hit the furthest homer ever" and "he could have hit a ball 580 feet and i can use my eyes to determine the distance"

the former is absolutely reasonable. the latter is beyond laughable


Agreed. Just like I can believe that Williams bombed one 502', but no one is going 650' I don't care what high school physics told you.
Posted by sigsauer
LA
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 12:28 am to
I thought so as well, I was at Minute Maid towards the end of the season, when Mcgwire hit one out of Minute Maid that high off the building behind the stadium. It may have even landed on the roof. I don't know the distance it was, but it was a moonshot.
Posted by whowasbert
Member since Apr 2020
184 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 2:23 am to
It’s a shame we’ll never get an accurate measurement of the Bonds home run against the Angels. That’s still the furthest ball I’ve ever seen hit.
This post was edited on 9/9/22 at 2:34 am
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15590 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 5:51 am to
That was a great World Series in general, but it had some scuds hit too. That Bonds homer is just next level though. Percival was aggressive and gave him 96 belt high…
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95170 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 6:17 am to
Being an 8 iron out on a golf course and then picturing someone hit a baseball that far is long as shite
Posted by Wayne Campbell
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:17 am to
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You know humans have been measuring and estimating since the beginning of time? The article I linked wasn’t from some fan forum, it was from MLB.com.


Yeah, and the accuracy of the estimation can only be as good as the accuracy of the data being used.

As technology has advanced, the data being input is better in regards to exit velocity and launch angle. Two significant factors in how far a ball travels.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15590 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:39 am to
Let me ask you this question… does stat cast have the capability to take an old footage of a homer, say Bonds in 02 series, and apply launch angle and exit velocity to provide an estimate of distance?
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:48 am to
If you’re talking about the playoff game in Houston at Minute Maid Park, I was there. The minute he hit that ball the whole stadium went quiet. We all knew it was a moon shot.
Posted by whowasbert
Member since Apr 2020
184 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:11 am to
I just looked and the home run off Percival is estimated 485 feet. Seems low to me.
This post was edited on 9/9/22 at 10:12 am
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15590 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:40 am to
Yea that’s a lowball to me.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6372 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:32 am to
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Let me ask you this question… does stat cast have the capability to take an old footage of a homer, say Bonds in 02 series, and apply launch angle and exit velocity to provide an estimate of distance?


I don’t really know. I would presume that it can be done. But the quality of the estimate would be based on the quality of the footage and the available angles.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52791 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 5:54 pm to
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How far was the Canseco home run in the SkyDome in the 89 playoffs? That may have been farthest ball I’ve ever seen hit.


LINK

Steroids or not, it’s pretty damn impressive.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52791 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 5:55 pm to
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That’s still the furthest ball I’ve ever seen hit.



Sup, Troy.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52791 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 6:42 pm to
Welp, YouTube said Manny Ramirez said frick off

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