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Locker didn't get a first-round grade from Advisory Committe
Posted on 12/18/09 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 12/18/09 at 7:58 pm
For those of you who admire the dedication and/or question the sanity of Washington quarterback Jake Locker for deciding not to enter the NFL draft in what could be the last year of the big-money windfalls at the top of the pecking order, the decision to stay in school isn't as honorable and/or stupid as previously believed.
As pointed out in the Associated Press article regarding Locker's decision not to forgo his final season of college eligibility, Locker had submitted his name for consideration to the NFL Collegiate Advisory Committee, which estimates where a player might be drafted.
Despite a proclamation by ESPN's Todd McShay that Locker would/should/could be the first overall pick, a league source tells us that Locker didn't receive a first-round grade from the Advisory Committee.
The source concedes that Locker might have still be drafted in round one given the value of the position, but the source insists that McShay was flat wrong in his assessment of Locker.
"That's the problem," the source opined. "McShay is clueless. Up until three weeks before the 2008 draft, he said that [Kentucky's] Andre Woodson would be a first-round pick. He went in the sixth and is out of the league."
And the source explained that these opinions come not from the same-old rant by NFL scouts that guys like McShay and Mel Kiper have the luxury of popping off with no accountability as long as it all sounds good (the same-old rant has a significant amount of accuracy, by the way), but from concerns that guys like McShay do kids a disservice by pumping up their expectations.
"The problem I have with people like McShay saying stupid things is parents and others who 'advise' these kids think McShay knows what he is talking about," the source said. "And they believe him before they believe the Advisory Committee. Then, when the kids go a lot lower than projected they are pissed and/or depressed. . . . This stuff happens every year and we have to deal with the broken hearts because people who don't know what they are talking about put visions of grandeur into young players' heads."
This item isn't intended to be a shot at McShay. But if the Advisory Committee didn't give a first-round grade to the guy that McShay had at the top of his board, then something is wrong with this picture. And we're inclined to think the defect doesn't come from the Committee made up of folks who scout players for a living -- and whose ongoing careers depend not on their ability to talk smoothly about their views, but on whether enough of the players whom they believe to be good players become good players.
As pointed out in the Associated Press article regarding Locker's decision not to forgo his final season of college eligibility, Locker had submitted his name for consideration to the NFL Collegiate Advisory Committee, which estimates where a player might be drafted.
Despite a proclamation by ESPN's Todd McShay that Locker would/should/could be the first overall pick, a league source tells us that Locker didn't receive a first-round grade from the Advisory Committee.
The source concedes that Locker might have still be drafted in round one given the value of the position, but the source insists that McShay was flat wrong in his assessment of Locker.
"That's the problem," the source opined. "McShay is clueless. Up until three weeks before the 2008 draft, he said that [Kentucky's] Andre Woodson would be a first-round pick. He went in the sixth and is out of the league."
And the source explained that these opinions come not from the same-old rant by NFL scouts that guys like McShay and Mel Kiper have the luxury of popping off with no accountability as long as it all sounds good (the same-old rant has a significant amount of accuracy, by the way), but from concerns that guys like McShay do kids a disservice by pumping up their expectations.
"The problem I have with people like McShay saying stupid things is parents and others who 'advise' these kids think McShay knows what he is talking about," the source said. "And they believe him before they believe the Advisory Committee. Then, when the kids go a lot lower than projected they are pissed and/or depressed. . . . This stuff happens every year and we have to deal with the broken hearts because people who don't know what they are talking about put visions of grandeur into young players' heads."
This item isn't intended to be a shot at McShay. But if the Advisory Committee didn't give a first-round grade to the guy that McShay had at the top of his board, then something is wrong with this picture. And we're inclined to think the defect doesn't come from the Committee made up of folks who scout players for a living -- and whose ongoing careers depend not on their ability to talk smoothly about their views, but on whether enough of the players whom they believe to be good players become good players.
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:05 pm to adammwilson
damn that is a big boom
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:06 pm to DBG
i need to bump my thread that i was ROASTED for now
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:06 pm to adammwilson
quote:
The source concedes that Locker might have still be drafted in round one given the value of the position, but the source insists that McShay was flat wrong in his assessment of Locker.
"That's the problem," the source opined. "McShay is clueless. Up until three weeks before the 2008 draft, he said that [Kentucky's] Andre Woodson would be a first-round pick. He went in the sixth and is out of the league."
McShay is an idiot. I have no idea how he got that job or why anybody cares what he says.
This is the same moron that had Al Woods going top 5 in last year's draft
This post was edited on 12/18/09 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:09 pm to eyeran
i jus cant imagine him thinking Woodson would ever go 1st rd the guys mechanice were God awful
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:11 pm to adammwilson
quote:
"McShay is clueless. Up until three weeks before the 2008 draft, he said that [Kentucky's] Andre Woodson would be a first-round pick. He went in the sixth and is out of the league."
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:11 pm to adammwilson
mike martz de-railed woodson's stock
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
na man Woodson sucked his mechanice were absolutely terrible he had other probs too i jus cant remember them now
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:14 pm to adammwilson
and martz tried to fix them in 1 week of senior bowl practice and woodson just lost all mechanics
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
Martz was trying to help him he eventually gave up like midway through the week but it didnt help then Woodson tanked in the pre season n lost all confidence
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:17 pm to eyeran
mcshay much like skip bayless is a character espn trots out there
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:19 pm to BilJ
yeah at some point espn was looking for a new kiper and they found a former college player who was good looking and in some mass comm
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:20 pm to adammwilson
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McShay is clueless
Duh
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
I didn't even know he played college ball so I went and looked it up.....

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McShay attended Swampscott High School in Swampscott, MA where he was the quarterback of the varsity team. His most productive game at quarterback came in week 3 of his junior season in which he completed 5 of 8 passes for 43 yards to go along with one touchdown and 2 interceptions. He decided to go to college at the University of Richmond. He attempted to walk-on while attending , but was switched to defensive back and garnered little playing time.
This post was edited on 12/18/09 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:22 pm to BilJ
it doesnt really bothered me if the guy played anything above high school ball i jus want him to know wat he is talkin about
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:24 pm to adammwilson
Didnt every mock draft have Woodson in the first round until weeks before the draft? Why just pick on McShay?
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