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re: LHSAA: West Monroe busted over player tampering

Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:40 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:40 pm to
This is why we need the select divisions.....oh wait...
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:58 pm to
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This isn't about Hutchinson, who will be eligible


Are you for serious?

I can't not believe they just ruled against West Monroe.

The rules are that George should be eligible IMMEDIATELY. This is a crock. He never went to Bastrop in the first place.

The LHSAA is out to stop transfers in it's tracks. I do not expect Hutchinson to be eligible whatsoever. I don't care how clean it looks. If he is cleared you will hear all hell break loose across the state behind the scenes.

You do know that Peanut Turpin transferred recently too? Wossman's two best players transfer.. But, it isn't for athletic purposes... Right.
Posted by WarhawkRebel
WM
Member since Jul 2008
1775 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:33 am to
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You do know that Peanut Turpin transferred recently too? Wossman's two best players transfer.. But, it isn't for athletic purposes... Right.


But no one cares Turpin transferred because it is wasn't to WM.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48319 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:37 am to
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they don't really have to... No real significant privates in NE LA...




It has nothing to do with the private schools. They were Neville, Ouchita, and Ruston's whipping boy until Shows got there, started getting players.from around the region and institutionalized holding players back.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:55 am to
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But no one cares Turpin transferred because it is wasn't to WM.



I agree and understand what you are saying.

What I am saying is that their top 2 players didn't transfer for non-athletic reasons. To believe that is insulting

Turpin isn't playing this year though. Dean Smith at Wossman knows the rounds here in Monroe having played at Ouachita back during West Monroe's true heyday in the late 90's. If you think he didn't have his eye keenly on Hutchinson and Turpin both the whole time they were at Wossman you would be fooling yourself. Any coach that isn't paying attention to their best players in North Louisiana is a fool.

Ouachita is unfortunate that the season wasn't right for egg crackin when they turned in WM over Robinson. Had that been this year WM would have been hung.

LHSAA is taking a different approach now because of the times we live in--social media and the ability to communicate to players more than ever. We see kids transferring at a rate I haven't seen in quite a long time around the state. They are attempting to stop that shite real fast. If they don't it will become a jungle out there.
Posted by tigerbait01
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:59 am to
Where did Turpin move to?
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:21 pm to
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Where did Turpin move to?



Tried to go to Neville. Well, that didn't work out too well .

Yes, Wossman lost their two studs. You have a young coach at Wossman trying to make a name for himself and his program and you need talents like these 2 to do so. They leave.

The real question here is when do you see star athletes transferring from schools like Evangel, West Monroe, Curtis, Rummel, Destrehan, etc... How many star--talking 4 star and 5 star athletes--leaving their name brand schools to head to a lesser school?

This stuff isn't rocket science whatsoever.

The LHSAA is truly laying wood this year.. John Ehret is absolutely lucky that Jefferson Parish School Board got ahead of the curve and disciplined Ehret and ruled Starks ineligible or they would have faced similar wrath..

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278455 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:34 pm to
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So they took 5k from a public school?



that just had $6.5 million upgrade to their football stadium
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 2:11 pm
Posted by nevilletiger79
Monroe
Member since Jan 2009
17570 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:44 pm to
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Tried to go to Neville. Well, that didn't work out too well


Turpin went to Lee Jr High 7/8
Went to Neville freshman year.. His home school
Decided to go to wossman soph year
Now back at Neville his home school his Jr year
He's been zoned for Neville several years
Posted by General
Monroe
Member since Jul 2004
1352 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:07 pm to
Was told yesterday he went back to Wossman.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:27 pm to
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Turpin went to Lee Jr High 7/8
Went to Neville freshman year.. His home school


Not a star whatsoever at this time.

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Decided to go to wossman soph year


Same

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Now back at Neville his home school his Jr year
He's been zoned for Neville several years


Now that he made a name for himself at Wossman he is back at Neville. I don't know the attendance zones of Monroe City Schools. I know Ouachita Parish and their rules a lot better, admittedly.

But, what I do know for certain is that if Turpin was already known and a star at the varsity level while at Neville, he never would have left to attend Wossman in the first place.

It is good he isn't playing. A kid who bounces around like that has no business on the field unless his life is in jeopardy elsewhere.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47644 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:42 pm to
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It is good he isn't playing. A kid who bounces around like that has no business on the field unless his life is in jeopardy elsewhere.


if i'm the LHSAA i always err on the side of letting KIDS play
Posted by tigerbait01
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:44 pm to
He would've been known had he stayed at Neville either way, simply because of his last name. Not like wossman made a name for him that wouldn't have been possible at Neville. His brother's career made sure that people would've known about peanut also.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47644 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:58 pm to
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He would've been known had he stayed at Neville either way, simply because of his last name. Not like wossman made a name for him that wouldn't have been possible at Neville. His brother's career made sure that people would've known about peanut also.


let's state the truth here. going to the right HS can add stars to your rating...
Posted by nevilletiger79
Monroe
Member since Jan 2009
17570 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 3:27 pm to
You're correct General he's back at Wossman.. Good luck to him
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 3:57 pm to
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He would've been known had he stayed at Neville either way, simply because of his last name. Not like wossman made a name for him that wouldn't have been possible at Neville. His brother's career made sure that people would've known about peanut also.



But, he didn't did he? He left, then left again. That isn't going to fly, and shouldn't at any school of any reputation. It is ridiculous. Unless, of course, his livelihood is at stake.

I'm all for a kid playing wherever he wishes, but a kid bouncing around like a basketball is truly ridiculous.

I want to play here; no, nevermind, I will leave; naw, that wasn't what I wanted; I will leave again and head back to where I started--which happens to be a school that dominates year in and year out.

CLEARED!!
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Riolobo
On the lake
Member since Mar 2017
4280 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:04 pm to
Agree. He broke the rules and got caught. Not saying I agree with the rules (text rule) but it's a done deal and the appeal will be a waste of time.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6218 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:23 pm to
My guess

Jerry will be let go before his 4 week suspension is finished.

Ainsworth will be in deep water - the source of funding to pay the fine is a hot topic.
Posted by GulfstreamTiger
Sondheimer Louisiana
Member since May 2017
796 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 11:15 pm to
I would be extremely surprised if he was let go unless there is much more going on than we know. As far as the fine, have you seen their new stadium? It was built with private funding and there is much more than that to be drawn from.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 11:30 pm to
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My guess




If your guess is true then West Monroe becomes an average ball club overnight. He is the heart and soul (along with Sanders) of that program. His defensive mind is one of the best there is. Hunt could carry it for awhile, but nowhere near Arledge in terms of knowledge and being around the program when it was being built to where it is today.

We won't ever know the full story of course, but my gut feeling is that West Monroe was set-up. No way they self-report without being tipped off that if they don't report it they will be given the Southern Lab treatment.

West Monroe fans are notorious for defending any and all behavior to the death and plays the victim just as hard as any school in Louisiana. But, I have seen what they do first-hand. They recruit. They do it. I have actually been apart of a player being recruited in North Louisiana dating back to 1999-2000. It was hardcore and it was deliberate.

None of this comes as a shock to me whatsoever at all. What a fan tells me goes in one ear and out the other just from the experience seeing it happen.

They got busted and they will pay the price for it. It was bound to finally happen and they just got caught during a time where the LHSAA is beginning to truly see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Also, in the case I mentioned the head coach at WM (Shows) had the decency to inform the coach at the players school that he had visited with him. I was there with this coach when he asked the disgruntled player why he wanted to leave and go to WM. In the house sitting down with them both.

Later that week we get visited by all 4 offensive linemen that began recruiting him and asking him why he would want to stay at his former school. He was wavering; he wasn't as sure about transferring once it became a reality that WM truly wanted him.

Schools know kids waver and that moving schools isn't as easy as talking about it. They leave friends, memories, and maybe more behind.

So, they stayed in his ear. So did his current school. In the end he stayed at his current school and did not transfer. But, once he made contact with WM they were all in.

I later found out that everything that happened was illegal. I had no idea why the coach at his current school did not turn WM in, but I do understand why now, years later. The two staffs were friends and they were competing. They wanted what was best for this player and didn't want the LHSAA involved.

Times sure have changed. No holds barred and that understood rule between coaches and transfers seems to have been destroyed.

Everything I shared is true and none, absolutely none was embellished whatsoever.
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 11:40 pm
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