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re: LHSAA: West Monroe busted over player tampering
Posted on 8/29/17 at 1:20 pm to chalmetteowl
Posted on 8/29/17 at 1:20 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:
how does it work when two brothers go to different schools?
Nothing. That happened in Monroe just a year or two ago. We had big brother at NHS for 4 years. Mom and Dad get pissed because he's a 3rd stringer as a jr and send little brother (who is a stud in jr high) to Ouachita for his freshman year. Big brother at NHS as a sr and Lil brother at OPHS as a freshman. They never moved to OPHS's zone. They realized their error and tried to transfer back for his jr year but was told there was no way he would be eligible. Kid was one of OPHS's best players and lived in NHS's zone the whole time.
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 1:23 pm to reo45
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I can tell you from my experience how that may work in theory.
I have two step-brothers. Both lived in Missouri for their junior high years before moving back home to live with their Dad (my step-dad) and establishing residence here in Monroe. My oldest step-brother who was my brother since I was 4 when my mom and his dad married was the first to make the move. My mom processed the whole event. She later on told us that she talked with the school board and told them that she had a son moving in that hasn't lived here since he was 10 years old and the last school he attended was Sallie Humble which is Neville attendance zone. But, we now lived in West Monroe zone--where he knew no one.
They told her that he could attend Neville even living in West Monroe if they so chose to send him there. Now, figure that one out!!! But, it is true. He chose WM anyways for some reason and stayed in his attendance zone. But, the school board was going to allow him to go to Neville and be cleared for sports if he so chose to go.
None of this is black and white. It is convoluted and a mess. It needs fixing in the worse way.
A few years ago WM had an OL that lived in River Oaks. Figure that one out.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 1:25 pm to General
WM's starting point guard transferred to Ouachita right before the season started a few years ago.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 2:33 pm to JJ27
OPHS's former basketball coach who is now at Wossman I think had a lot to do with multiple kids going from Lee as 8th graders to OPHS as freshmen. Dean Smith better watch who he turns in because his basketball coach is the most prolific recruiter in Monroe.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 2:34 pm to chalmetteowl
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which board, the Ouachita or the Monroe board?
The issue was resolved through both school boards.
She told them that he had many friends--I remember two of them and one played football for Neville Colt Manning and the other also went to Neville, but forget his last name--Bo "last name". He lived here his whole life until he was 10 and his mom moved to Missouri a few years after my mom and his dad married.
So, when he finally had the ability to choose where he wished to live with the courts he chose his father when he turned 14 years of age in January of same year. He finished his school year in 8th grade in Branson, Missouri and moved over the summer back home.
She used this whole emotional process to her advantage with the school board talking about his last few years dealing with court and custody to her advantage tremendously: the poor child
... So, both school boards agreed to the move and would not make a fuss about it. She let it be known that she didn't give two fricks anyways as she told us and was sending him where he wanted to go anyways.
Luckily nothing came of it and he attended WM anyways. He always told me that he wanted a clean reset and just living with his Dad after his mom stripped them away at his age was all he needed--his father. But, my Mom wished for him to have as easy of a transition as possible and the school boards worked together to allow it is what I am stating.
This was way back in 1993.
Nothing is black and white I've learned over the years. Always gray area that makes decision making so difficult for most.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 2:38 pm to General
quote:
A few years ago WM had an OL that lived in River Oaks. Figure that one out.
I can't, but I assume there is a logical explanation.
My only problem, ever, with transfers athletically is when a coach or someone from another school tries to influence their decision without the sending school knowing about it.
I used my story about my friend earlier to show that the coach or principal had the decency to alert the players coaches that he had visited their staff. That is proper and sound. That is how life should work. I respect WM for that and they did nothing I found nefarious or dirty whatsoever. But, the rules say otherwise and the rules are garbage.
But, if a player is influenced in any way and the other staff isn't alerted for a heads up I think there should be punishment. It is secretive and not transparent. It is attempting to steal another player whether they instigate contact or vice-versa. If the process is open an transparent the kid can make his own mind up to what he wishes to do in the proper manner.
Also, if financial incentive is provided in any manner to a player they should be disqualified--both parties--also.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 2:53 pm to reo45
This situation was parents filed separation and mom moved to WM. Dad was attorney and reunited after school year
Posted on 8/29/17 at 3:14 pm to nevilletiger79
Imagine that.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 3:18 pm to nevilletiger79
quote:
This situation was parents filed separation and mom moved to WM. Dad was attorney and reunited after school year
If this is true, then he would be ineligible by the rules unless his parents filed for divorce in a court of law.
If they haven't and they are just separated, then he is only eligible in the attendance zone where his parents resided prior to their separation.
So, if they filed for divorce in a court of law it was all good. You said he was an attorney. Seems pretty straight forward.
If parents wish to do that for their child so be it and it is their right to do whatever they wish for their kid.
But, if there was no divorce filed and permanent legal custody was granted to the mother than he is also eligible if she lived in West Monroe.
I assure you if he is an attorney he had it done right.
It still could not be for athletic reasons and/or recruitment of player. If anyone tampered with the player from the receiving school it is not cleared.
The decision in no way can be influenced at all.
If all that clears he can play.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 11:51 am to reo45
Like I said...Hutchinson cleared by LHSAA...
Posted on 8/31/17 at 12:07 pm to JJ27
Was cleared 10 days ago but the email got lost in their spam account. Can't make this up.
But just for those keeping score.
Kid that's always played at West Monroe and was still on their roster ruled ineligible due to a text message.
Kid that's never played for West Monroe and transferred ruled eligible.
Never change, LHSAA. Never change.
But just for those keeping score.
Kid that's always played at West Monroe and was still on their roster ruled ineligible due to a text message.
Kid that's never played for West Monroe and transferred ruled eligible.
Never change, LHSAA. Never change.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 12:12 pm to Dale Murphy
quote:
Was cleared 10 days ago but the email got lost in their spam account. Can't make this up.
But just for those keeping score.
Kid that's always played at West Monroe and was still on their roster ruled ineligible due to a text message.
Kid that's never played for West Monroe and transferred ruled eligible.
Never change, LHSAA. Never change.
John Ehret LB ruled eligible today for Biloxi High too. He went St. Martin, John Ehret, Biloxi. George goes WM/Bastrop/WM...ruled ineligible.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 12:27 pm to JJ27
quote:as far as MS is concerned nothing in LA matters. Living with custodial parent - eligible in his original school district i believe
John Ehret LB ruled eligible today for Biloxi High too. He went St. Martin, John Ehret, Biloxi. George goes WM/Bastrop/WM...ruled ineligible.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 12:36 pm to choupiquesushi
As well he should imo. Just saying he transferred to two different schools in less than a year, eligible. George is a WM kid since elementary, sans a couple months spent at Bastrop. He returned to the school he's always attended, yet he's ruled ineligible to play anywhere his senior year. It doesn't make sense.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:29 pm to JJ27
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This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:30 pm to JJ27
Nevermind I see it was with biloxi, but I was thinking somehow he was back at Ehret.
That would have been ridiculous.
That would have been ridiculous.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:39 pm to JJ27
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As well he should imo. Just saying he transferred to two different schools in less than a year, eligible. George is a WM kid since elementary, sans a couple months spent at Bastrop. He returned to the school he's always attended, yet he's ruled ineligible to play anywhere his senior year. It doesn't make sense.
Nothing the LHSAA does makes sense.
Tomorrow night West Monroe will play Ehret. Two stud players transferred in: one was ruled eligible and the other wasn't.
All I have been stating from the beginning is that the LHSAA chooses it's decisions it seems based on criteria foreign to most of us outside looking in.
They say a child can't transfer for athletic reasons. OK. Well, that rule in itself seems one of subjective reasoning. So, let's say the only reason that would be allowable is if some stud athlete left Evangel and had to go to Mansfield because his family moved there for a job or any other reason that one can fathom. But, you never see a stud player move like that. You always see the reverse: a stud leaving an average school and headed to a contender. But, they don't rule across the board on those cases, ever: it is darts on a board.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:56 pm to reo45
Also, tonight Landry-Walker will be playing John Curtis.
Landry-Walker picked up a huge transfer themselves this off-season in kemon smith from Northshore.. just a 6'3 290 defensive tackle is all on a state championship team
Wasn't for athletic reasons though I bet.
Pick and choose your decisions. That rule is the most opaque rule in high school sports that allows for discriminate choices in clearance.
Landry-Walker picked up a huge transfer themselves this off-season in kemon smith from Northshore.. just a 6'3 290 defensive tackle is all on a state championship team
Wasn't for athletic reasons though I bet.
Pick and choose your decisions. That rule is the most opaque rule in high school sports that allows for discriminate choices in clearance.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:59 pm to reo45
quote:so mama could never get a better job in Orleans Parish?
Landry-Walker picked up a huge transfer themselves this off-season in kemon smith from Northshore.. just a 6'3 290 defensive tackle is all on a state championship team
Wasn't for athletic reasons though I bet.
Besides, we all know the recruiting services and college coaches DON'T think every school is equal. If playing at Landry Walker over Northshore gets a kid more of a chance to play college football, why begrudge it?
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:18 pm to chalmetteowl
When is a move not for athletic reasons brother??
There is a reason why we have the lousiest Athletic Association in America quite possibly. I'll let you figure out why that is so.
The system is broke.
There is a reason why we have the lousiest Athletic Association in America quite possibly. I'll let you figure out why that is so.
The system is broke.
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