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Posted on 10/12/24 at 7:34 am to
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 7:34 am to
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Catholic High def. Liberty (formerly Lee High) 42-14


BEAT LEE
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 7:43 am to
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I can’t imagine the running of the clock and new play clock after the offsides is correct
if the clock was running prior to enc YES and yes play clock resets. injured player if clock would otherwise have been runnuing w no injury - starts on ready for play

defensive injury is 40 on play clock
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 8:06 am to
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if the clock was running prior to enc YES and yes play clock resets. injured player if clock would otherwise have been runnuing w no injury - starts on ready for play

defensive injury is 40 on play clock
The injured defensive player, yes, I understand that and dont disagree with the new play clock. But to be clear, in the play I question; the clock is running...ASH has a procedure call while on offense on 4th and 1 They called the penalty, marked it off, then reset the playclock (which I understand), but they ran the game clock. (I was there watching and the white hat signaled to run it, it wasnt some clock operator error) I am a huge ASH supporter...but if this ruling was applied correctly, it should be changed. If not, you could just run an infinite amount of clock off correct?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 8:23 am to
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We got people saying the flag was so late Ponchatoula thought it was a celebration penalty on us

But question… have you ever heard from a coach mad a penalty wasn’t called on his team in a situation like that where it would have benefitted them?
no but as for late flag enc is a blow and throw - whistle before flag AND stop action
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 8:25 am to
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quote:
if the clock was running prior to enc YES and yes play clock resets. injured player if clock would otherwise have been runnuing w no injury - starts on ready for play

defensive injury is 40 on play clock
The injured defensive player, yes, I understand that and dont disagree with the new play clock. But to be clear, in the play I question; the clock is running...ASH has a procedure call while on offense on 4th and 1 They called the penalty, marked it off, then reset the playclock (which I understand), but they ran the game clock. (I was there watching and the white hat signaled to run it, it wasnt some clock operator error) I am a huge ASH supporter...but if this ruling was applied correctly, it should be changed. If not, you could just run an infinite amount of clock off correct?


no they cant - as mentioned before


Clock Management Rule 3-4-7, any foul committed within the last two minutes of either half will automatically result in the offended team's option to start the game clock on the snap. Prior to this change, the offended team was required to accept its opponent's penalty in order to gain control of the game clock.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 8:30 am to
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result in the offended team's option to start the game clock on the snap. Prior to this change, the offended team was required to accept its opponent's penalty in order to gain control of the game clock.
So you are saying that WM could have stopped the clock and chose to let it run? And just to be clear, I am not being argumentative, I am trying to understand. JJ was correct, there was almost zero rational reason that we were able to score with 13 seconds left. Yes, we did score and make it a two score game, but it easily could have been a 3 point lead with time on the clock. And both teams were fairly gassed.
Posted by wmtiger69
west monroe
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:05 am to
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did the refs and/or West Monroe know that?


I’m sure the WM coaches have no clue.
Posted by TBubba
Not sure
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:21 am to
Did the officials ask WM if they wanted to start clock on snap? Why wouldn't they just start clock on snap anyway since the choice was obvious?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:24 am to
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I’m sure the WM coaches have no clue.
maybe not but upon asked anyone would say to not run it down three.

It just seems that, if correct, it’s a stupid rule.
Posted by MONROE
In the belly of the beast
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:30 am to
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ETA: Looks like we have the refs conspiring against West Monroe again also.


Couldn’t happen to a more delusional, classless program
Posted by HarrisLetsRide
Member since Jan 2015
1488 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 10:01 am to
I agree with your take. This WM team is better than the record indicates, they just couldn’t get out of their own way last night. 2 bad fumbles in the 1st half, blown coverages in the 2nd half, defense couldn’t off the field in 2 critical series on 4th down. Credit to ASH, they made plays when it mattered.
This WM defense shows glimpses of dominance at times, then melts down when they need it, have to develop consistency. Proud of the effort last night though. Offensively they’re figuring out who they are. The schedule has been tough, just have to keep fighting.

There may not be SEC guys there right now, but several of these kids will play at next level, this is a talented group.
This post was edited on 10/12/24 at 10:03 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 10:31 am to
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They shortened the field goal by 15 yards to ice the kicker? Brilliant


I read this in the voice of that Guinness commercial

“Brilliant!”
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39307 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 10:57 am to
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This needs to be a rule change. Consecutive offsides penalties needs to be a free play or the option for offense to declin it’s a no play


Correct. I'm not upset with the officials, they seemed to have gotten the rule exactly correct.

It's a dumb rule, and it's a rule difference between NFL and NFHS that I don't understand, and it gives an advantage to the defensive team to commit a penalty, which is nuts.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39307 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 10:59 am to
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but we haven’t been giving the ball enough to our best players in close games such as the past few weeks


As I mentioned at halftime, the playcalling in the first half was horrific. The second half was better, but at times, was terrible.

Look, this is a young inexperienced team, I am under no illiusions that we will make a deep run. This is the very definition of a rebuilding team. But you have to call plays that put your team in the best position to win.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:02 pm to
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am under no illiusions that we will make a deep run.


Maybe, but if we get to the playoffs, our defense right now is capable of winning the first round by itself. Thats a deep run by our historical standards lol
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:39 pm to
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Correct. I'm not upset with the officials, they seemed to have gotten the rule exactly correct.

It's a dumb rule, and it's a rule difference between NFL and NFHS that I don't understand, and it gives an advantage to the defensive team to commit a penalty, which is nuts.
how did defense gain anadvantage?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:41 pm to
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So you are saying that WM could have stopped the clock and chose to let it run?
Yes WM could have
Posted by Mr Clean
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:48 pm to
On an unrelated topic, Teurlings Catholic is one of the main stories out of the Lafayette area. The Rebels are competing against the big boys in Div. 1 in the playoffs this go-round (as is STM)

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Posted by Kankles
Member since Dec 2012
6058 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:55 pm to
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Westminster Christian-Lafayette is a feel-good story. First year varsity program is 5-1


Head Coach is Kent Gable, former offensive coordinator at Acadiana. Running the veer very effectively at the 1A private school level.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39307 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:56 pm to
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how did defense gain anadvantage?


Points did not count.

again, compare this to NFL rules.
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