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re: LHSAA: The Definition of 'Select' Schools Just Got A Lot More Broad

Posted on 6/3/22 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 6:13 pm to
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Every public school in NOLA is a charter


Since when?
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 6:27 pm to
2018, McDonogh 35 was the last non-charter
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 7:03 pm to
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Sorry but 32 out of 36 teams shouldnt make 3a playoffs. should be 24 max for football(prolly 16) and 16 for everythign else.


Why not?

I mean, if you are going to go that route, then just do 8. The odds of someone in this new scenario winning state seeded 9 or above is infinitesimal.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 7:07 pm to
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There is a way to get a lot closer to being fair but no one has the stones the propose it as a solution to bring the private and public back together. Tell the privates they have to open up their books and prove they aren't giving scholarships to kids to play sports. Would it fix the issue of schools like Catholic High, John Curtis and others completely probably not but it would put slow it down.


Hang on explain in detail how giving a kid a scholarship evening the cost between public and private is an advantage??

All they are doing is evening the playing field.

fricking stupid how the publics whine about scholarships. I went to public and it's a view from dumbass boomers who act like they own kids cause they live in their district.

If the public school is so good then they wouldn't go to the private. For example not many baseball players would leave barbe for a full ride to st louis. Know why?? Barbe offers more from a sport standpoint and offers more AP classes.

Publics need to fricking worry about getting better. Offer better education, better environment, better coaching and better facilities if you don't want kids to leave.

Scholarships just even the playing field between publics and privates.

If you disagree, make a detailed argument or frick off.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 7:10 pm to
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Why not?

I mean, if you are going to go that route, then just do 8. The odds of someone in this new scenario winning state seeded 9 or above is infinitesima


Because there has to be some meaning to regular season. But 16 is about perfect, 8 is to few.

Entry of lower seeds have made it to late rounds and knocked out high seeds.
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 7:15 pm to
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Because there has to be some meaning to regular season. But 16 is about perfect, 8 is to few.


This is arbitrary.

Using DATA, not feelings, 8 is where we SHOULD be.

If we don’t go 8, then we may as well go 32.

ETA - How many teams seeded 9 or higher have won state in the power rating era?
This post was edited on 6/3/22 at 7:16 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 7:17 pm to
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Entry of lower seeds have made it to late rounds and knocked out high seeds.


32 seed Central beat 1 seed St. Paul.

What’s your point, that upsets happen?

The data implies 8 is the number that makes the most sense. If not...go to 32.

ETA - Central may have been 33rd that year.
This post was edited on 6/3/22 at 7:19 pm
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 7:18 pm to
Not sure about state and too lazy to go look up but plenty have made late runs. My senior year we were 26 seed and barely lost in semi's.

8 essentially means you are only taking district champs. Take 2 publics per district atleast
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 7:33 pm to
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lost in semi's.


This is my point.

If it is about championships...then it’s 8.

If it is about playoff experience (including upsets and surprising playoff runs) then I say go 32.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 7:39 pm to
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If it is about playoff experience (including upsets and surprising playoff runs) then I say go 32.


Then you still have shitty teams in and fixed nothing

16 in all brackets this year and starting two years from now, 11 regular season games to make up for losing a playoff game
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 7:40 pm to
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16 in all brackets


Arbitrary.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 8:03 pm to
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Arbitrary


So you want 0-10 teams in the playoffs. Gotcha
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 8:16 pm to
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So you want 0-10 teams in the playoffs. Gotcha


No - I want only the top 8.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 8:59 pm to
The playoffs are a reward for regular season. You want teams that did relatively well to be in and get the experience but you don't want 0-10 or 1-9 teams or any teams with losing records if possible. That's why 16 works.

It's about the same % wise as 32 was before the split.
Posted by Coastrashtiger
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:06 pm to
When my old man was in school, in Louisiana it went only up to 4A? Wish they would contract back down on the public side, I know it will never happen but still.

Going to school in Mississippi and being fortunate to go a private school that I believe is one of only 5 private schools in the state allowed/our only option that plays with the publics in district and playoffs. I really am hurt by what these principals are doing to the kids in Louisiana. It truly is quite sad.

I always loved Louisiana's setup I think it was quite unique and made the playoffs in every sport, wild, wacky, fun, exciting, and entertaining. Now honestly there is even less parody IMO or it feels that way, and I honestly think it will eventually effect the overall level of competition in the state being reduced.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:14 pm to
Correction to your post-

There’s more parody but less parity.
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:17 pm to
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That's why 16 works.


Go look at the first round on the select side in Division 4.

arse whoopings, and they don’t even have 16 schools.

Oh, and those teams that got their asses handed to them all had winning records.

You think 16 is best, cool. I say once you get past 8, it doesn’t matter (if championships are the measure).

For the record, I am against the split (and always have been). This shot is watered down, so what does it matter in the early rounds?

We will agree to disagree. I say 8.
And if it isn’t 8, then I say 32.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:36 pm to
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so what does it matter in the early rounds?


Clearly you haven’t seen teams who make it their goal to win round 1… we’re not all state title contenders
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:37 am to
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Clearly you haven’t seen teams who make it their goal to win round 1


You mean like Central beating St. Paul.

Thanks for proving my point though.

Clearly you don’t know me, or my background.

Clearly you are simply assuming.

quote:

we’re not all state title contenders


No shite.

Nonetheless, nothing that I have posted is incorrect. Nothing.

Have a good day.

Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 7:47 am to
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You mean like Central beating St. Paul.


They were like 33 out of 62. A lot different than 32 out of 40
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