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Let’s say SGA does draw defenders to foul him a lot……..so what?

Posted on 6/5/25 at 1:09 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 1:09 pm
Who cares? If people keep fouling him, that’s on the defenders. Stop fouling.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 1:11 pm to
It’s more a question of will they allow Indiana to rough him up the way they were allowed to do with Brunson. If he starts getting ticky tak calls that weren’t being called before people are gonna notice it and complain.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 1:12 pm to
The way they call games is so stupid it leaves the door open for this sort of controversy.
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 1:13 pm to
Have you watched the NBA lately? Star players draw fouls all the time where the defender barely or doesn't even touch the player.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 1:15 pm to
What’s happened during the playoffs is they’ve allowed grabbing and holding off ball and even allowed a lot of contact while the ball hander is on the perimeter but as soon as they go downhill they call any contact. It’s absurd.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 1:16 pm to
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Have you watched the NBA lately? Star players draw fouls all the time where the defender barely or doesn't even touch the player.

Ok. So your issue is with the league not SGA
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 1:23 pm to
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The way they call games is so stupid it leaves the door open for this sort of controversy.

What’s the controversy?
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 1:46 pm to
The foul baiting arguments
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 2:00 pm to
If only there was a way to track how often he gets filled compared to other star players ….

Assuming he wins MVP this year, he will be ranked 27th in free throws attempted for an MVP winner

So it seems he doesn’t do a great job of “foul baiting”
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 2:03 pm to
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Assuming he wins MVP this year


You mean the MVP he won like 3 weeks ago? 5th L of the week for the big fella
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 2:04 pm to
This is one of those arguments like comparing free throw attempts. It has nothing to do with the validity of fouls called.
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 2:04 pm to
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Assuming he wins MVP this year, he will be ranked 27th in free throws attempted for an MVP winner

So it seems he doesn’t do a great job of “foul baiting”


He is known for foul baiting. He is second in free throw attempts this year at 8.8. Only beind Giannis that does nothing but drive to the basket. Next closest is T Young at like 7.3 attempts a game.


Edit Also, he already won MVP this year.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted by TigerphanTigerman
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 2:15 pm to
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Who cares? If people keep fouling him, that’s on the defenders. Stop fouling.


In many scenarios he is not fouled. Much like Brunson, he is very good at initiating contact with the defender and then embellishes the contact in a very animated way in order to draw the attention of the referee. There is an art to it for sure, but it is being called out online. He is a foul merchant.

The guy is a great player and gets fouled, but he should not be leading the league in free throws as a SG who shoots more mid range jumpers than anyone. But it affects the game because the other teams primary defender gets put in early foul trouble and must leave the game.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 2:18 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 2:21 pm to
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Who cares? If people keep fouling him, that’s on the defenders. Stop fouling.
That’s the thing, if guys are going to be allowed to bait fouls, defenders need more freedom to move and make contact. I’m completely fine with how some of these guys play if the refs do better and the rules allow defenders to occupy space that the foul baiter is about to use to get the call.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 2:23 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 2:27 pm to
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The foul baiting arguments

Right but what’s the argument?
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 2:28 pm to
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he is very good at initiating contact with the defender and then embellishes the contact in a very animated way in order to draw the attention of the referee.

Foul baiting and flopping aren’t the same thing
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 2:30 pm to
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That’s the thing, if guys are going to be allowed to bait fouls, defenders need more freedom to move and make contact.

So your issue isn’t with SGA, it’s with the nba
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 2:31 pm to
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So your issue isn’t with SGA, it’s with the nba


As he’s already explained. Gotcha fail lol
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 2:32 pm to
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The guy is a great player and gets fouled, but he should not be leading the league in free throws as a SG who shoots more mid range jumpers than anyone.
SGA leads the league in drives per game….

I guess statistically from everything I see his free throw attempts are completely in line with where they should be and in line with every generation of NBA, not just the current one. So I’m not sure how it’s an NBA thing either
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66579 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 2:33 pm to
That he’s getting phantom calls and I don’t think it’s specific to him, Brunson and Joker have also had a lot of complaints in this way but SGA’s profile in this playoff and being the MVP brings more attention and scrutiny. There’s also the added caveat that OKC gets away with a lot on the defensive end making SGA getting favorable calls more egregious to some fans.
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