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re: LeBron's #s the last 5 minutes of games

Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:55 pm to
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Westbrook = 2 points in the last 5 minutes
Durant = 0 in the last 5 minutes.

Westbrook has more heart and loves the game more than Durant

Durant doesn't want the ball late in the game.

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:56 pm to
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Durant is not clutch if he was he wouldve taken over the last 2 games like MJ wouldve
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:57 pm to
durant did miss 3 FT late in the game

PRESSURE GOT TO HIM
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:00 pm to
bullshite SFP, no one hated LBJ before he was drafted. People were enammered by him and beyond excited to see him play in the NBA.
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:00 pm to
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durant did miss 3 FT late in the game

PRESSURE GOT TO HIM

He doesn't have the "heart of a champion".

disappears at the end of games.
Posted by The Future
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:00 pm to
That's not including the fact that Durant and Lebron have very different games, and Lebron plays one way for 3 quarters then changes his game only in the 4th and becomes almost non-existent.

It's not a changing slide; it's multiple branches of the same issue. He gets scared late in games.

It's not hating LeBron, it's not wanting him to fail, its backed up by facts.

- he's averaging 3 less points in the 4th quarter than other quarters (reg. season, don't know about PS, probably less than that)

- he's shooting 25% in the 4th quarter

- its not like he's facilitating and getting his teammates good shots, he's mostly just not touching the ball

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:01 pm to
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bullshite SFP, no one hated LBJ before he was drafted. People were enammered by him and beyond excited to see him play in the NBA.

i've been getting into arguments about lebron well before he was in miami. he got a ton of shite for getting swept in the finals that one year, for example. SCH hates him b/c of the old cavs-wizards rivalry (when he got the nickname "LeWalk")

you forget the "Crab dribble" era?
Posted by texastiger38
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:02 pm to
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no one hated LBJ before he was drafted.


Think that's why he didnt include the Tattoo, He was hated on for not closing for the 2 seasons before he left cleveland.

ETA: the "quit" game against the C's or Orlando and had a triple double.
This post was edited on 6/6/12 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:04 pm to
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It's not a changing slide



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It's just basic herd mentality.

They hear a meme, believe the meme, then ignore all evidence to the contrary of the meme.

The meme becomes the truth to them.

Those that disagree with the meme baffle them, because they never considered thinking for themselves.


Or they are Cleveland/Kobe fans.



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You prove your point, they move their debate to another point. . .then they exaggerate that point for comedic effect and high fives.

I broke it down last night.

Lebron passes to the open man for a game winning shot? He should have taken the shot ==> He is scared to shoot the clutch shot

Lebron scores a 3 to tie the game and send it to OT? He only scored 4 points in the 4th ==> He only plays for 3 quarters.

Lebron scores 9 in the 4th, including a late drive to get the game back to within 2? He didn't score every minute of the 4th ==> He disappears for stretches in the 4th.

The problem is, their argument is fueled by emotion. Using logic to combat emotion. . .well that's like arguing with a liberal. . .or a woman. . .or both.

You can't combat an irrational mind with reason.
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:04 pm to
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no one hated LBJ before he was drafted.


not sherrif srs?

lebron was constantly scrutinized.

"no jumpshot"
"no post moves"
"cant make a 3"
"crab dribble"
etc etc
Posted by The Future
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:05 pm to
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ETA: the "quit" game against the C's


That was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Last game in a Cavs uni too
Posted by ZTiger87
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:05 pm to
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You must not have watched the playoffs last year, or every game of this series besides game 4.


Durant wasn't anywhere close to being as passive as Lebron last year. This year Durant has hit 3 shots in the playoffs with under 20 seconds to give his team the lead. He was great closing out games against LA and Dallas. He was great in game 4 against the Spurs. You can start questioning him when he goes 4 straight years quitting on his team or consistently disappearing in tight situations.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:06 pm to
They said he couldn't play defense for the longest time.

Then he became an All-League defender. . .That's when the clutch talk began.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:07 pm to
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"crab dribble"

since this was the easier search

from 2009

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Lebron is a little bitch


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Hes just a little whinny prick who thinks the league should hand him a title.


quote:

He does that shite every game, he's just mad that they finally called it.


Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:08 pm to


wow thats great
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:11 pm to
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Why are u making excuses for him? People love to compare him to MJ and the correct answer for MJ would be that he would score 40 if need be for the Bulls to win.

That's the difference in them two. MJ would do whatever it took to win, Lebron not so much.


Yeah. Except you couldn't run zone when MJ played.

It's a different game now.
Posted by The Future
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:13 pm to
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Lebron scores 9 in the 4th, including a late drive to get the game back to within 2? He didn't score every minute of the 4th ==> He disappears for stretches in the 4th.


He disappeared for 8 minutes in the 4th quarter of a close game that his team lost at home to a slow, injured. tired, old Celtics team (outside of Rondo) that he could, and should be dominating in the 4th quarter.

He's the best physical specimen in league history, he is unstoppable when he drives the paint. He does it for 3 quarters then stops in the 4th
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:14 pm to
Nah I remember.

Let's paint this another way.


You're a lawyer/law student right SFP?

Let's say your working at a smaller firm, but absolutely killing it. Your name explodes. No one can question your talent or potential.

You feel like a big fish in a small pond, naturally.


You not only leave the smaller firm, but you publicly rub it in their faces when you leave for the big city well known firm to finally release your endless potential.

You get to the new firm. You walk I'm day one and promise them the world. Let's say a flawless case record and endless awards. Everyone is excited to just be at the same firm as you.

You undoubtedly bring, case by case, and dominate your profession but you don't live up to what you promised.

Are you personally not held accountable for not delivering, not living up to what you promised?

clearly I don't know jack shite about what lawyers do, but...

In any profession of you don't live up to your hype, your payroll, your promises....what happens?

criticism. doubt. hate.
This post was edited on 6/6/12 at 11:17 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:16 pm to
am i working with a litigation team and other people aren't pulling their weight?

or are we talking tennis/golf now?
This post was edited on 6/6/12 at 11:16 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:17 pm to
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or are we talking tennis/golf now?



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