- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Lebron's biggest failure --- he hasn't played on an historically great team
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:30 pm to slackster
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:30 pm to slackster
quote:
Lebron is good but overrated. Top ten all time but not top five.
quote:
There is no objective measure that can support this stance.
But what about the subjective measures where I can make up reasons to knock Lebron for my own personal biases against him in order to attempt to validate leaving him out of my top five because I don't like him?
0
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:34 pm to CelticDog
quote:1. LOL
1. he will never get credit for the 3-1 comeback. Everyone knows that if Green plays in game 6, while Bogut is still playing, the W's are at least 50/50 to finish it off.
2. It was game 5, not game 6.
3. CLE beat GS with Draymond in game 7, so...
quote:He's famously contributed in more big time wins in crunch time than probably ever NBA player not named MJ.
2. He famously did not contribute in crunch time in losses.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:34 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:You WANT the ball in Kobe's hands for the last shot!!!!
It's spoken like someone who gets their sports opinions from the internet. Read a bad opinion and repeat it like it's a fact.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:00 pm to shel311
They won Game 7 by 23 points, the series was never in doubt
They set a record for margin of victory in the Finals.
They beat the Thunder in their wins by 17 points, 35 points, 28 points, and 5 points
blazers? 24, 17, 15, 22
13-14 Spurs are one of the best teams ever, the Heat from 12-13 are not.
They set a record for margin of victory in the Finals.
They beat the Thunder in their wins by 17 points, 35 points, 28 points, and 5 points
blazers? 24, 17, 15, 22
13-14 Spurs are one of the best teams ever, the Heat from 12-13 are not.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:18 pm to chinhoyang
quote:
5. Larry Bird
6. Lebron James
The Larry Bird > Lebron argument is almost as ridiculous as the Kobe > Lebron one.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:44 pm to Goldrush25
quote:There is literally no objective data point one could use to justify Larry over LeBron. Championships is the go to criticism of lebron, and Larry has 3 just like LeBron. LeBron had more MVPs, finals MVPs, had made more All NBA teams and first team All NBA teams.
The Larry Bird > Lebron argument is almost as ridiculous as the Kobe > Lebron one.
He also leads him in EVERY advanced metric average in regular season and playoffs, and his peak seasons are much higher as well. And obviously cumulatively (Win Shares, points, etc.), favor him as well. Larry has more regular season rebounds, but that's only a matter of time before it's surpassed.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:50 pm to Ghazi
quote:Sure, but you brought up the 2013 Pacers-Heat, seven game series as evidence of their inferiority.
They won Game 7 by 23 points, the series was never in doubt
The Heat won game 7 by 23 points as well. They also outscored the Pacers by 28 points while the Spurs only outscored your Mavs by 14. And the Pacers had an SRS of 3.34 compared to the 2.91 SRS of the Mavs.
So that 7 game series was more impressive for the Heat.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:51 pm to StrongSafety
*a historically great team
not *an
not *an
Posted on 5/4/17 at 7:31 pm to buckeye_vol
Did the Heat have a historically dominant NBA Finals?
Also the eye test, that 13-14 Spurs team would wipe the floor with the 12-13 Heat. Hell, the 12-13 Spurs shoulda beat them.
Also the eye test, that 13-14 Spurs team would wipe the floor with the 12-13 Heat. Hell, the 12-13 Spurs shoulda beat them.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 5/4/17 at 7:51 pm to Ghazi
quote:NO, but with one of the best regular seasons in history, the second longest regular season winning streak, and an NBA championship, it has to be among the top 10 or 15 greatest seasons in history. I wouldn't say they were top 10; but they are still a historically great team overall.
Did the Heat have a historically dominant NBA Finals?
quote:I mean I think the 13-14 Spurs were better, but the Heat were much better in 12-13 than 13-14 so I don't know about "wiping" the floor.
Also the eye test, that 13-14 Spurs team would wipe the floor with the 12-13 Heat. Hell, the 12-13 Spurs shoulda beat them.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:01 pm to StrongSafety
Dumbest shite I've ever read.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:21 pm to CelticDog
quote:
He is not in the top tier for courage under fire. He's just not.
So if you're in a Game 7, you'd rather have LeBron facing you than have him on your team?
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:34 pm to StrongSafety
The Heatles were historically great.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:45 pm to CelticDog
quote:
If he gets hot on a roll, there is no one like him. But several players over the past 75 years have had the intestinal fortitude to play their best when the game was on the line.
He is not in the top tier for courage under fire. He's just not.
When the game is on the line? Try having your entire legacy on the line. LeBron is probably the greatest elimination game player of all time.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:55 pm to CelticDog
quote:Bogut played 60 minutes in the first 5 games. They were -15 in those 60 minutes; they were +37 in the 180 minutes he didn't play. In other words, GSW was 0.456 points better each minute he was off the court than on. That's 21.9 points in a 48 minute game.
while Bogut is still playing, the W's are at least 50/50 to finish it off.
quote:Unless you're referring the 2011, then I'm not sure what you are talking about.
He famously did not contribute in crunch time in losses.
quote:As Imagred shows above, Lebron averages 32.9 points, 10.8 rebounds, and 6.9 assists in elimination games. Nobody has performed to that level. So you are completely wrong.
If he gets hot on a roll, there is no one like him. But several players over the past 75 years have had the intestinal fortitude to play their best when the game was on the line.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:19 pm to buckeye_vol
Why do people keep responding to this guy? He's got to be a top five poster on this board for worst sports thoughts.
Page 4 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News