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re: LeBron still doesn't have that killer instinct like Jordan and Kobe
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:29 am to DownSouthCrawfish
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:29 am to DownSouthCrawfish
quote:Nike and a sports media filled to the brim with Chicago/MJ fantastics who regularly speak of MJ like he was a legitimate god.
Nike brainwashing a generation into believing Jordan is the greatest ever because of 6 rings is one of the best marketing jobs of all time.
MJ propaganda would make Adam Schiff blush.
It’s sad these folks can’t see they’re identical to TDS riddled freaks.
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:33 am to lsu xman
Does LeBron get a statute from Jeannine if he gets bounced 1st rnd again?
You know 100% hes getting one. Maybe the Lakers can spell correctly on his
You know 100% hes getting one. Maybe the Lakers can spell correctly on his
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:57 am to narddogg81
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He was by far the best player on that team at age 39, even after he hurt his knee. AD is by far the best player on the Lakers he is both their best offensive and defensive player
At this point, yes. AD is the best player on the Lakers. But this isn't some slight. AD is only a perennial DPOY candidate capable of scoring 25 every night. If AD was on those Wizards teams, he would be their best player as well. Even then, he still isn't better than Lebron offensively right now.
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and he absolutely carried LeBron to that Disney bubble "championship". Then they had the audacity to give LeBron the finals MVP, which is just how things go if you are on a team with LeBron.
Revisionist history. Lebron finished 2nd in MVP voting in 2020 behind Giannis. Lebron was easily still the Lakers best player in 2020. That was probably the last year of his prime. During the finals, Lebron put up 30/12/8.5 on higher efficiency v 25/11/3 for AD.
So please tell me more how AD carried Lebron to that finals championship.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:12 am to redfishfan
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LBJ is easily the second best to ever play the game and gets shite on. Kobe's game was full of flaws and postseason mishaps but OMG KILLER INSTICT.
MJ is the GOAT
LBJ is 2nd.
Kobe isn't top 5
Nah. Kareem at the very least is better than LeBron career-wise. He has the longevity stats that the current crowd seems to find so compelling, while also having more hardware, more accolades, and was a better defender his entire career than LeBron. He's also not tainted by the team shopping to find enough all stars on one roster to drag him to a cheap championship. His only move was from a Milwaukee team he had propelled to the top of the NBA to the at the time bottom feeding Lakers, and magic was still in high school at the time. There was nobody at LA, and he instantly made them massively better (the move was culturally motivated, Wisconsin wasnt the most comfortable place for a black Muslim at the time). They built that juggernaut Lakers team around him organically with the draft, like with all the true greats (like they did with bird at Boston, Jordan at Chicago), he didn't go begging for help (incidentally neither did Jordan when he was already the best player in the league but his team was horrendous in the late 80s/early 90s and they kept getting bounced from the playoffs by the Celtics and Detroit. As attested by the coaches, Jordan never asked for more help, never even discussed the roster with the coaches, he just drove everyone in the team maniacally to play to his standard).
LeBron is at like 5 imo. 1. Jordan 2. Kareem 3. Kobe, and for me personally 4. Bird (short career due to injury, but as good as anybody ever while he could play) 5. LeBron (despite what a shitty cry baby he is, he has an impressive career).
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 9:25 am
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:19 am to narddogg81
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team shopping to find enough all stars on one roster to drag him to a cheap championship.
Main reason will lebron will never be the greatest
Can’t do shite on his own
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:24 am to QJenk
quote:because basketball is a 2 way sport, and AD was by far the best defender in the league at that time while also doing all that scoring and rebounding. LeBron stopped trying on defense around 2017-2018.
Revisionist history. Lebron finished 2nd in MVP voting in 2020 behind Giannis. Lebron was easily still the Lakers best player in 2020. That was probably the last year of his prime. During the finals, Lebron put up 30/12/8.5 on higher efficiency v 25/11/3 for AD.
AD is why they won that, he was more valuable overall
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:32 am to narddogg81
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AD is why they won that, he was more valuable overall
Lebron fanbois are so caught up with LOS and they can’t ever admit that he’s on the decline. To them he will always be the best and most valuable player on any team that he’s on.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 9:33 am
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:43 am to narddogg81
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Kareem at the very least is better than LeBron career-wise. He has the longevity stats that the current crowd seems to find so compelling, while also having more hardware, more accolades
All the respect in the world to Kareem. One of the greatest to ever do it. But a couple of things here. Lebron's longevity is even greater than Kareem's. He already passed him scoring wise. But in his age 39 season, he put up 17.5/6.7.
You keep mentioning about Lebron changing teams. That doesn't change how good of a player he is, or his accomplishments. It's totally fine to dislike him more because of this. But just admit you have a bias then.
I also saw that you ranked Kobe over Lebron. Yea, you clearly don't know basketball. At all.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:45 am to narddogg81
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because basketball is a 2 way sport, and AD was by far the best defender in the league at that time while also doing all that scoring and rebounding. LeBron stopped trying on defense around 2017-2018.
AD is why they won that, he was more valuable overall
Lebron was still really good defensively at that time. But Lebron was the engine that made that Lakers team go. There's a reason he finished higher in MVP voting than AD. Quit letting your hatred of Lebron cloud your judgement.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:47 am to TackySweater
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Lebron fanbois are so caught up with LOS and they can’t ever admit that he’s on the decline. To them he will always be the best and most valuable player on any team that he’s on.
I literally just stated AD is the current best player on the Lakers, and that Lebron has declined more since 2020. But even with that decline, he is still a top 15 player. What part of this are you not getting?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:30 am to narddogg81
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LeBron is at like 5 imo. 1. Jordan 2. Kareem 3. Kobe, a
Sorry but putting Kobe ahead of LBJ invalidates any basketball opinion you can have.
LBJ is objectively better at Kobe at almost everything in their prime plus LBJ has played better for longer.
Better scorer. LBJ career averages 27 on 50% shooting. Kobe 25 on 44%
LBJ who has a narrative of not being a very good shooter shoots the 3 better than Kobe too. 34% for LBJ 32% for Kobe.
LBJ is the much better passer and that shows in he averages 7 assist a game for his career while Kobe is at 4.
Rebounding LBJ averages 7 while Kobe averaged 5.
Kobe does shoot FTs better than LBJ.
LBJ's career PER is much better than Kobe's and the same goes for WS.
In their Prime Kobe was probably the better defender overall but LBJ could defend 1-4 and that was key to the 2 rings he won in Miami as he would matchup with Rondo, Pierce, and Garnett with not problem.
The narrative is that Kobe was this clutch killer but LBJ is better than him in clutch time shooting at 34% while Kobe sits at 29%.
LBJ also was never robin for any of his championships. The Lakers/Heat series he averaged 29/11/8 and won 4 finals MVPs. Kobe won 2 finals MVPs and in one of his finals averaged 15/4/4.
Kobe is around 9 or 10 alltime and any inclusion of him in the top 5 or above LBJ is just dumb and based on zero facts.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 10:33 am
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:31 am to QJenk
quote:You’re talking to a Boom/DisplacedBuckeye/PeeJ love child.
What part of this are you not getting?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:35 am to redfishfan
Responses to that will be fun
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:35 am to ReauxlTide222
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You’re talking to a Boom/DisplacedBuckeye/PeeJ love child.
Your LOS is heavily clouding your cognitive thinking ability.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:17 pm to Thundercles
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Lebron routinely disappears in the fourth quarter in key games. Whether or not that is because he puts in so much work in the first three quarters is up for debate, but he's often seen passing or not taking shots when he's able to score well in the first three quarters.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:22 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Responses to that will be fun
They ran from it. Bc there is no argument.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:25 pm to redfishfan
Kobe has 5 rings LBJ has 3*
So hes also better in that category along with FTs
So hes also better in that category along with FTs
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:42 pm to BreakawayZou83
He's been awful in the 4th quarters against the nugs in the postseason. All 4 games last year and again in game 1.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:18 pm to Peter167
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He's been awful in the 4th quarters against the nugs in the postseason
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