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re: LeBron James: NFL owners are ‘old white men’ with a ‘slave mentality’ toward players

Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:20 pm to
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didn’t bring up race. I don’t think Tbird did, either.


LeBron did. That's the context that you're avoiding because it's one of the many things that blows up your cockamamie interpretation of a very simple diatribe from LBJ.
This post was edited on 12/22/18 at 2:22 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:22 pm to
I'll side with the one with greater than a high school education when it comes to economics and management of an organization.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:24 pm to
You’re like the kid who puts his fingers in his ears and screams because he knows he’s wrong and can’t respond.

And once again Lebron shouldn’t throw slave around loosely. It’s a slap in the face to people who were or are actually slaves. If he was trying to compare NBA players benefits compared to what NFL players go through, then he should have said that instead. But the use of “old white men” makes it seem like he referring to the old American slavery and likens the owners and thus the players to that.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:29 pm to
You’re name calling and inching closer to getting personal. This indicates weakness.

My line of thinking represents the parts of the thinkings of James and Marvin Miller’s SCOTUS victory that overlap. It is supported by the dictionary and SCOTUS precedent. Take it as you will.
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NBA players also toil. If James is using the definition you claim, then he himself is also a slave being oppressed by those who have the same mentality.
If that’s the argument you wish to make, good luck. James clearly sees a difference between the NBA and NFL and sees the NFL as much less favorable. I remember you bringing up context.

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mijo
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dumbfrick
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Just take the L, hermano. Your wordsmithing is so-so, and that's me being nice to you.
Presented without comment.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:31 pm to
TL;DR

I’m not gonna read your crap after you’ve Cathy Newmaned me four times.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:34 pm to
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My line of thinking represents the parts of the thinkings of James and Marvin Miller’s SCOTUS victory that overlap. It is supported by the dictionary and SCOTUS precedent. Take it as you will.


Again, you completely ignore the context of James' comments. Additionally, you ignore the fact that the more benign definition you wish to project would undermine the point LeBron was trying to make. For some reason you're unwilling to cast LeBron in a dim light even though his comments clearly warrant it.

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James clearly sees a difference between the NBA and NFL and sees the NFL as much less favorable. 


James took it much further than that and you know it.

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Presented without comment. 


Keep making stupid arse arguments, you'll get more of the same, dummkopf.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:35 pm to
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You are intolerable


He never adds substance, just a bunch of
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:35 pm to
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Is this XIV guy literally trolling us right now? I mean the arguments hes conveying are so absurd and ignorant of anything that they shouldn't even qualify as arguments they should qualify as nonsense babble


That's his MO
Posted by TexasTiger08
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:37 pm to
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xiv


I’m willing to bet that are far enough away from the NFL lifestyle that you don’t have enough information to confidently speak on this topic. YOU don’t have a damn clue how the NFL players are treated.

Then you start dissecting the word slavery. This is a poor attempt at best to validate what James is saying. I’ll leave it at that.

Does this mean white players are treated like slaves also? Is Tom Brady a ‘victim’?

These athletes are given the platform to perform their talents and market themselves. The owners aren’t ‘holding anybody down’.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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299716 posts
Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:37 pm to
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James clearly sees a difference between the NBA and NFL and sees the NFL as much less favorable.


Yeah no one is arguing this but you.

Unfortunately that's not all James did
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:37 pm to
Think he might be a contrarian troll or something
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:39 pm to
Nah, he actually believes whatever he's trying to convey. He just gets lost trying to argue.

He and DS are twins.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:40 pm to
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Yeah no one is arguing this but you.

Unfortunately that's not all James did



If James had just said "players in the NBA have more career control and voice than players in the NFL," that would have been fine, dandy, and true. But yeah he took it way past that into the realm of racism and comparing millionaire athletes to slaves.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:40 pm to
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xiv


Ballscaster
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:44 pm to
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If James had just said "players in the NBA have more career control and voice than players in the NFL," that would have been fine, dandy, and true. But yeah he took it way past that into the realm of racism and comparing millionaire athletes to slaves.


Yeah James is great at basketball but he's in way over his head here.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:45 pm to
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Ballscaster


May be. Same ridiculous schtick and an affinity for trannies.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:47 pm to
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Again
Now i know not to read this part of your post further.
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James took it much further than that and you know it.
Possibly, but not nearly as far as the melt has taken it, and that’s my point.
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Keep making stupid arse arguments, you'll get more of the same, dummkopf.
Oh no. Not that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:48 pm to
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Possibly


Posted by xiv
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:49 pm to
All i mean is that i don’t necessarily disagree with that specific point by Tbird.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 2:53 pm to
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This is a poor attempt at best to validate what James is saying.
I’m guessing it’s a poor attempt at best to validate something Curt Flood said once, too.
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Does this mean white players are treated like slaves also? Is Tom Brady a ‘victim’?
Lebron’s quote didn’t mention the players.
This post was edited on 12/22/18 at 2:53 pm
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