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re: Lebron James is now #5 on the all time scoring list

Posted on 11/15/18 at 1:54 am to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 1:54 am to
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#1 on the bitch list tho


Dude, frick zaza pachulia and jason terry have him beat on that list by a country mile.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 1:55 am to
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mizzoubuckeyeiowa
It’s amazing how you can accurately find and include relevant facts (in the precious post) then somehow waste them all in such terrible analysis and conclusions that are littered with boom-like fallacies and biases, and without anywhere close to the possibility that you’re trolling a bit like boom.

And the worst part of it, is that your argument doesn’t NEED them. You could say these are the reasons I think Kareem is the greatest, despite Lebron’s greatness and no rational person should find that outrageous.

But nope, you just couldn’t help but waste those facts and let other relevant facts fail to make it to the debate.
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 1:56 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 1:56 am to
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This thread just pisses me off


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this is some fricking big deal because LeBron is now Top 5? 


Ummmmmmmm...........YES. Kind of the definition of a big deal.
Posted by Othello
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 2:22 am to
Greatest stat-padder of all-time.

Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:54 am to
Pretty good post, although most wont tell you that.

As the green light for 3 pointers has turned into the Autobahn, in 10 years or so some really great player is going to pass some of these all time greats and maybe gets thrown into the goat conversation.

Kareem made one 3 pointer in his career.imagine if he came up training for them like today’s bigs. Players 20 seasons. Not in today’s travel friendly sports medicine marvelous world. In the 70s and 80s. Plus 4 years of college.

Point being, inflation exists when it comes to stats, comparing peers is way more accurate than comparing players from different eras.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 5:02 am to
2GOAT
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 5:17 am to
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In the 70s and 80s


Lebron would’ve dominated the 70s 80s and 90s
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 5:48 am to
6 of the top 8 were Lakers at one point

Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 6:16 am to
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all time scoring list


aka List of Lakers legends
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 6:17 am
Posted by Starchild
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 6:35 am to
KD for sure. Don’t forget about Boogie
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 6:37 am to
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Lebron would’ve dominated the 70s 80s and 90s



the point went over your head, LeBron, Kareem etc., are just player “X” in the arguement, though he wouldn’t have the freedom to do a lot of what he does. And for his first decade, the 3k points he scored shooting 3s would only be 2s...but that’s situational obviously. Stats are inflated, son, that’s the point. This generation has an insane advantage in sports medicine and data.

Don’t be a routine fanboy.

This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 6:39 am
Posted by Dallasgrowl
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 6:56 am to
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Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 6:57 am to
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Lebron James is now #5 on the all time scoring list



Yes
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 2:36 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:15 am to
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the point went over your head


No it didn’t. Doesn’t matter the era, or what we Kareem was in, Lebron would still break scoring records.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:53 am to
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Doesn’t matter the era, or what we Kareem was in, Lebron would still break scoring records.


Wow, what an asinine statement.

LeBron as great as he is and he’s an all timer...his body wouldn’t even be the same in the 70s. His skills training wouldn’t be the same. His recovery methods would be different if at all. His steroids would be less advanced (kidding)...I never said he wouldn’t be great in the 70s, but he wouldn’t be the same player. So to say he would have as many points (as you ignore the 3 point inflation) is to be obtuse.

Like Shaq said if he was coming up today, they’d have him at SF.now that’s a slight exaggeration but the point stands.

Understanding the difference is key to watching the game today with proper perspective.

In 20 years when they add the 4 point line you might get it and say “Thanos was right”
Posted by Nonetheless
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:01 am to
Racist
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:02 am to
Real Laker fan's are not excited by this only titles

Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:11 am to
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See Kobe.

Shite, if Kareem hadn't gone to College...he'd be even more untouchable.

He spent 4 years in college (he wasn't allowed to play as a freshman)...and amassed 2,325 points.

He averaged 774 points a year during his career, so Kareem would have had at least 3,096 career college points...making him between #6 on the all-time college scoring list.

Add those years to some varying degree to the NBA and Kareem would be 6,000 points above everyone else.

And LeBron would have to play 8 more years from what he averages per year to surpass Kareem.

Let that sink in.

And if people say, oh we don't know if he'd amassed those points right away in the NBA...

He as Rookie of the Year, All-Star his first year in the NBA.

His freshman year at UCLA, his freshman team defeated the NCAA champion UCLA Varsity team...which won the title again the next year.

He almost never lost a game in college, was POY 3 straight years (would have been 4 if he was allowed to play) and won 3 straight national titles (would have been 4 if he had been allowed to play.)


How can you even take what Kareem did seriously?

Did they even play real basketball back then?
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 8:14 am
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:12 am to
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Lebron James is now #5 on the all time scoring list


Getting ever closer to that 1 spot, dude CANNOT be STOPPED cept by himself back in 2011 Finals that was cringeworthy
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:16 am to
Have. A. Downvote.
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