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re: LeBron James and MJ at 31 years young

Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:05 am to
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:05 am to
Not really an apples to apples comparison, but it's still MJ easily for me. And I love Lebron.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:05 am to
And the East wasn't a cake walk in Lebron's entire time either. Those 2008-2012 Celtics teams were as good as anyone in the NBA.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:05 am to
Bron has played 3 more seasons at 31. But that is a positive for LeBron, not a negative. If MJ is in the league at age 18-20, he doesn't win any earlier
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 9:06 am
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:08 am to
LeBron has already played more minutes than MJ by a wide margin. I doubt he'll continue at this level for much longer; even in this series he was limited in effectiveness until his jumper decided to show up.

Having said that it's amazing how quickly the narrative can turn. Just a couple weeks ago the book had been written on LeBron's career.
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:10 am to
the fact that lebron lead the cavs to a title appearance in 2007, with Larry Hughes, daniel "booby" gibson, and drew gooden as starters speaks volumes. I don't care if they got swept by the much superior spurs that finals. he had a team full of nobodies that year. let's not forget that the cavs were down 2-0 to the pistons that year, who were the East favorites, and beat them en route to the finals
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51708 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:14 am to
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Having said that it's amazing how quickly the narrative can turn. Just a couple weeks ago the book had been written on LeBron's career.



Exactly. A week ago everyone had given up on proving he's better than MJ. Now everyone's back on the bandwagon
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:16 am to
I hope LBJ wins 3 more rings so I can hear people tell me that only going to 6 finals and winning them all is better than going 10 times and winning the same amount of rings.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:16 am to
Pretty crazy to think MJ won his last title at 35 and was the finals MVP. I think with how LeBron prepares for the playoffs during the regular season, he can get atleast two more.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:19 am to
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Exactly. A week ago everyone had given up on proving he's better than MJ. Now everyone's back on the bandwagon
I was that guy. But at this point, you cant close the book. LBJ just won #3 and showed he is still clearly the best player on the planet. He also has an awesome stud teammate in Kyrie, WHO IS ONLY 24! It aint over on LBJ.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:22 am to
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And the East wasn't a cake walk in Lebron's entire time either. Those 2008-2012 Celtics teams were as good as anyone in the NBA.


so 2 of his finals runs he faced a good team in the east


The east has been week the last few years. The Bulls and Celtics were both good though. I am not intending to shite on Lebron. What he did in this finals was insane... just saying he's had an easier path to get there. No objective person would argue against that.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:23 am to
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It aint over on LBJ.


Definitely not, but Jordan was the better player. I'll admit it's not by much. Lebron is pretty easily #2 for me.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:26 am to
I think LeBron has a few more years being the best player on earth than he will decline, but still be a pretty dominant post player.

Guy is gonna end up with one hell of a career.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125445 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:27 am to
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Just a simple thought, let us discuss it.


Lebron also more years in the league at this point

A fact you guys love to leave out.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:31 am to
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A fact you guys love to leave out.
It is a fact that doesnt matter. If MJ played in the NBA from 18-20, nothing changes. If anything, it made have had a negative impact on his career.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:35 am to
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Stop it. LeBron is my guy, but can we stop with Jordan comparisons.


I'm a Lebron guy and inclined to agree with this.

But I'm not going to completely dismiss his ability to catch him. It's a low probability but if he can keep racking up the Finals appearances who knows.

But it's just incredibly difficult to imagine him even catching MJ statistically. He's already behind MJ in PER and we're not even factoring in his inevitable decline. He has to get a couple more Miami-quality statistical years and I don't see that happening.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40859 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:36 am to
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MJ: 3 titles, 3 MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs

Bron: 3 titles, 4 MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs


Just a simple thought, let us discuss it.



MJ and the Bulls Three-Peated twice. Get there and Lebron can sniff MJ's nut stank.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25842 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:42 am to
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3-4 > 3-0
the truth is, this is actually correct.

Who fricking cares about what the winning percentage of the finals is. MJ lost just as many playoff series, but Lebrons teams were good enough to atleast get to the finals.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:44 am to
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MJ and the Bulls Three-Peated twice. Get there and Lebron can sniff MJ's nut stank.
What if he wins 4 in a row with Cleveland to get to 6? Does that count or does it specifically need to be two 3 peats to sniff MJs jock?
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:44 am to
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just saying he's had an easier path to get there. No objective person would argue against that.


We've been over this. The east had 8 of the top 12 teams these year.

It's not like Golden state was playing some insane gauntlet the last two years during the playoffs. Only 2 good teams they played these last two years were OKC and Cleveland.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70936 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:44 am to
frick yes

Happy Monday

Let's do this
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 9:45 am
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