re: Lebron is the best in the NBA

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Don't you dare compare him to Mike. He is so far out of Mike's league it ain't funny. The difference with those end of game situations is: In how many of those times did Mike come back and follow a miss at the end by going off on somebody?

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I'm sorry you suffer from selective memory but LBJ has some of the best finals stats in the history of the NBA. I'm not particularly comparing them, rather I just gave you an example of how dumb you sound.

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6-0 and 2-4 are a BIG DIFFERENCE, so don't you dare.

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Wtf does a team stat have to do with individual play? All of the Bulls teams>>>any team LBJ has ever played on.

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Lebron would be a footnote if he played in the league at that time.

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No, you can't be this dumb. The NBA would have exploded to a level unforeseen if we had MJ v LBJ matchups. You seriously can't be this stupid.

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Mike started on the same trajectory as this dude, he had nothing at the start, so he did it all. It took him to realize, he had to make his teammates better, NOT drop em and leave town to win. He helped make his team a team, this dude is not about to do that and won't ever, so in my book, you don't fit at the top of this game, cause when a true team comes along, they're gonna beat you 9 out of 10 times.

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I won't even go down this rabbit hole with you but I'll give you one stat to shut you up. In 22 minutes without LBJ on the floor in the finals, his TEAM went 18.2 FG%, 00.0 3pt%, 54.6 pts/100 poss, -39.2.

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Just ask Lebron, those are the teams that have beat him. The teams that play well together.

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Except the Spurs team he won against played well together.

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He'll finish high in all the stat categories when its over but AGAIN, in the 1 that matters most to legacy, he's gonna have one of the worst records per Finals Appearances.

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Do you know who George Mikan is? Frank Ramsey?

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Iguodola won with his defense. Many experts think Curry should've been the MVP because the offense flows through him, whether he gets the points or not.

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Is defense not a critical part of the game. Without Iggy, nobody would have been able to stop Lebron. And since when are there NBA finals MVPs experts? They obviously aren't experts because if they were they would say no one on the winning team should've been awarded the mvp. Everyone on that team was a valuable piece to the puzzle.

And yet, he has the mentality of a teenager.

Dud this thread has Nothing to do w Houston what the hell is wrong with you no chance this cavs team is a lottery team without Lebron. Maybe the teams that won the lottery after he went to MIA but not this one.

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Wtf does a team stat have to do with individual play? All of the Bulls teams>>>any team LBJ has ever played on.

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He's supposed to be the engine to his team, he's supposed to be that dude, why aren't you winning, why can't your team win if you're the supposed to be such the best in the league? That's what Curry's team just did right? That's what the best in the league do right?

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No, you can't be this dumb. The NBA would have exploded to a level unforeseen if we had MJ v LBJ matchups. You seriously can't be this stupid.

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Lebron wouldn't have been the #1 guy on any of those teams cause no coach at that time would let him take the PG spot and he would get his lunch money taken in the paint cause they would have made him play the 4, back to the basket and he can't. Not to mention, he would have gotten his butt beat up every night trying to bang down low and then whining about the fouls that aren't called. This diva crap he's doing now would not have been accepted.

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I won't even go down this rabbit hole with you but I'll give you one star to shut you up. In 22 minutes without LBJ on the floor in the finals, his TEAM went 18.2 FG%, 00.0 3pt%, 54.6 pts/100 poss, -39.2.

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But that's the team you helped put together, hand pick, cause you felt they could pick up the slack when you aren't in or aren't producing and they didn't. Which goes back to my helping make your teammates better. Not just putting them in an opportunity to score by assisting, no, actually helping to TEACH. That's what the BEST do!

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Except the Spurs team he won against played well together.

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I said 9 out of 10 times right? Why cause at some point all star teams will get it together and rise up. Its impossible for it not to happen a fraction of the time.

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Do you know who George Mikan is? Frank Ramsey?

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Really? Neither of those players is on the level we're talking about. You're saying this dude is an all time great, neither played when there was enough diversity in personnel, strategy or similarity to the game today to compare.

The closest you can is the 80's and 90's, and so please tell me how he stands against the best of the most comparable generation, cause those that were the best, you don't stand up to them.

Look I'm done with this for 2 reasons. A) I'm talking basketball, I never attacked you personally, just ain't that deep for me, my observation is he's a bitch who wants to be the best but won't make the changes in self to get there. B) Like who you like, you like his style of play cool, I've never been a fan and never will be, cause I see through dude on and off the floor. It may take til he leaves the game but its gonna be a flood of bad feelings about his game and who he is from those he's played with and against and it will all come to light.

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Those who play, coach and analyze the NBA..

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You need an NBA expert to tell you who a finals MVP is?

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The reason I say Wade carried that title is what's been my point this entire thread. You all looking at dude stats, not in the way he's earning them, not when he's earning. Its great you going off at the beginning of the game, against back ups, but when they got down or it got tight, Wade was the big shot against the Thunder. Lebitch put up plenty of numbers, but I ain't caught up in that. I'm caught up in winning and not only has he continued to lose in the big games, but been sore about it.

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Multiple people have refuted your ridiculous arguments with statistical evidence, including numbers showing shots Lebron made late in critical playoff games to either clinch or continue the series, yet you strangely change your point to one that still can't be supported with facts in any way. The numbers posted aren't imaginary. There is no evidence that Wade carried that team in any way. Although you want so badly for it to be true, it will never be so. You are literally making this up in your mind.

You are doing all of this this as a result of your emotional bias based on your opinion of him off the court rather than what is actually happening on the court, as was my original point about simple-mindedness. How else could I rationalize you thinking in such a way? Your insistence on arguing points that don't make sense which you know you can't support, even when others show you in several ways how and why you can't, is bizarre. The inability to accept flaws in your thought process likely means that you will stay this closed-minded person forever, sadly.

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Take away lebrons athleticism and currys jumper. I'm taking Lebron.