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re: Lebron is the best basketball player to ever play the game
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:51 pm to TigerBait1127
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:51 pm to TigerBait1127
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You didn't post a stat in any of your posts
Take from it what you will, but they are comparable
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:57 pm to WITNESS23
Lebron brought a shitty organization to a league contender every year without help and MJ brought a shitty organization to a plateau of shittiness without help. I think MJ is a baller but I also hate him because he's a douche. If he's so great, why couldn't he win without pippin?
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:00 pm to Choot em Tiger
IMO Lebron will never be the clear cut GOAT, but he will deserve to be in the discussion and that's all I want from him.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:10 pm to Choot em Tiger
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Lebron brought a shitty organization to a league contender every year without help and MJ brought a shitty organization to a plateau of shittiness without help. I think MJ is a baller but I also hate him because he's a douche. If he's so great, why couldn't he win without pippin?
Why couldn't Lebron win without Wade & Bosh?
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:11 pm to Choot em Tiger
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MJ brought a shitty organization to a plateau of shittiness without help
what?
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If he's so great, why couldn't he win without pippin?
He had the Pistons and Celtics in his conference which were filled with all-time greats. MJ played extraordinary in those playoffs
If Lebron is so great, why couldn't he win without Wade and Bosh?
This post was edited on 2/27/13 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:12 pm to Choot em Tiger
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If he's so great, why couldn't he win without pippin?
So why can't LBJ win without Wade and Bosh? This argument is stupid..
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:16 pm to TigerBait2008
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This argument is stupid..
Most of these are, but for some reason I love it
Sports, gotta love 'em
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:11 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:Are you being serious right now?
but didn't Delonte West throw him off his game by banging his mom?
And I actually mean that as a serious question.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:14 pm to Prominentwon
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I would KILL to know what type of numbers Jordan would put up in today's finesse game.
FWIW, defenses are better now than they were then.
They were more physical then, but they weren't as good as they are now, definitely not as complicated and intricate.
And that's the 90s, that doesn't even begin to talk about how there was just no defense played in the 80s. Watch ESPN Classic, one of those Lakers-Celtics NBA Finals from the 80s. I mean, actually sit and watch it, and it's laughable the D they played compared to today's game.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:17 pm to LSUdm21
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Just look at the rule changes since 2000. That late 80s & 90s NBA was a tough arse league. I don't think people understand that. There were no hand check fouls or fouls for putting elbow/forearms into to spines and kidneys. I'd love to see each guy switch eras
I REALLY think people are forgetting about those yars, and just going with the "Everything was better in my day"
Or, you think of the physical game, and you think those fouls by Laimbeer were happening 15 times a game.
Team defense today is so much more fluid and better than back then.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:22 pm to Choot em Tiger
quote:Because he played a whopping 2 seasons before Pippen got there?
If he's so great, why couldn't he win without pippin?
And 2 seasons again with the Wizards near 40?
The "Without Pippen" thing is so ridiculous.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:47 pm to shel311
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I REALLY think people are forgetting about those yars, and just going with the "Everything was better in my day"
i think the elite defense back then were harder on a player than today. Then again, I think LeBron would put those elite defenses in foul trouble very quickly. A center can't camp out in the lane anymore, but back then zone defenses were illegal.
That was my biggest problem with LeBron back in the finals 2 years ago. He should have been driving when his jumper went cold and going to the line
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