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re: Lebron comments on the Ahmaud Arbery shooting

Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:31 pm to
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:31 pm to
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You’re saying gangs don’t shoot innocent ppl of other races too? Never? Interesting


Strong straw man there.


But even taking your example, the same logic would still apply. No one thinks gang members are okay, they do plenty of deplorable things.

Even if they perform racially motivated crimes, it’s a completely different dynamic than when a regular every day citizen or police officer kills someone that appears to be racially motivated.

If you can’t see the difference between the two, I don’t know what else to say
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38950 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:33 pm to
I smell a fake hate crime coming his way.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 6:34 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38270 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:34 pm to
What really sucks is the comments man

A bunch of people applauding him for using his platform and “talking his shite”

This dude who was gunned down while jogging is lost in the shuffle of all these self-righteous assholes trying to out-react each other

What happened was awful and those clowns who killed him should be in prison, why not just let it be that? Why not focus on his tragedy and hope for HIS justice?

Why make these broad sweeping disingenuous statements that just incite people?

This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 6:35 pm
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:36 pm to
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Why make these broad sweeping disingenuous statements that just incite people?



Do you think a person that lives in a 50+ million dollar house. One of a few by the way. Actually gives a single shite about a random killing?

LeBron did not spend anymore time caring about this than it took to type out a tweet.

Its embarrassing
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

So we know that gangs are bad and that is not worth talking about because we know it

And we have been talking about this "racism" for 160 years but that is not known even though it is all we talk about?

I am not following.


It’s not hard to follow but I’ll break it down more.

Gangs are bad. Everyone agrees they’re bad. Gangs exist. Everyone agrees they exist. No need for discussion

Racism is bad. Everyone agrees it’s bad. Racism exists. Not everyone agrees it exists, or they try to downplay its impact on our country.

See the distinction between the two?

It’s important to talk about these things when they happen, and spread awareness, because of the fact we all agree racism is bad. If we can get more people to accept that racism exists and take it more seriously then perhaps we can transition that into actions that bring positive change.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27824 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:38 pm to
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This is different. It’s an innocent black man dying because, well, he’s black.
This story blew up specifically because this isn't something that happens every day.

But LeBron and people like him are acting like this happens all the time. It doesn't. It happens from time to time on rare occasions.

Also, from the little bit I read, he wasn't confronted because he's black. He was confronted because there have been break-ins and these two guys said they spotted him on camera scoping out houses and looking in windows... kind of like the Trayvon Martin situation. One guy got out of the truck with a shotgun, Ahmaud Arbrey started fighting with him over the gun, and the other guy shot him.

Now, maybe those two guys totally lied about their motive. Maybe Arbrey wasn't even doing what he was accused of doing. Maybe those guys should have left it up to the police instead of trying to take matters into their own hands.

Who knows. But unless there is proof they just went out to hunt a black guy because of his race, you shouldn't be saying it like it's a fact.

Those two guys acted like absolute morons. But there isn't any evidence it was a hate crime. I mean, if they were just going out to kill this guy, there wouldn't have been a fight over the gun. They would have just shot him. He wasn't shot until after the fighting over the gun.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 6:47 pm
Posted by swagsurfin7
Founder of the Alex Morgan Fan Club
Member since Dec 2009
7290 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

Something tells me post-playing career LeBron will be more successful than post-playing career Jordan.




:lol: Stop
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175421 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:39 pm to
LeBron is gonna get some more racist graffiti on his gate tonight
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30492 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:39 pm to
Yet nothing on his twitter about the 2 blacks shot, 1 killed in St.Louis City this morning.

#weird
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16422 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:39 pm to
Why doesn’t he comment on the thousands of blacks killed by blacks every year.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
41220 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:43 pm to
Welp, that tweet cements it. Best NBA player of all time.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36238 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

I’m far from a “back the blue” person, a ton of cops are power hungry idiots with a high school education who love to abuse the power they’ve been given.

But when you go to the absurd hyperbole Lebron is here and many others do I just can’t back it
Precisely
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90184 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

Lebron always has to make everything about him

you voted for a guy that does the exact same, only he's old enough to be your grandfather.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16422 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:45 pm to
LeBron has said “blackness” is America’s best export...while later saying that “blackness” has been misappropriated.

He really is an idiot.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149374 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

Also, from the little bit I read, he wasn't confronted because he's black. He was confronted because there have been break-ins and these two guys said they spotted him on camera scoping out houses and looking in windows
I'm sure his race had nothing to do with this
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
11739 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

Racism is bad. Everyone agrees it’s bad. Racism exists. Not everyone agrees it exists, or they try to downplay its impact on our country


I think there's a difference between saying racism still exists and saying BLACK PEOPLE ARE BEING HUNTED
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
11739 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

PrimeTime Money


Please don't tell me you think these hooligans shouldn't be arrested
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

I think there's a difference between saying racism still exists and saying BLACK PEOPLE ARE BEING HUNTED



I agree. Lebron is incredibly hyperbolic and hard to take him seriously because of it.

I’m speaking on the general sentiment when these type of events happen and the outrage against the people who use it to start a conversation about the social issue
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149374 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:49 pm to
Welcome to America in 2020. An awful thing happened, an even more awful thing has happened after in them not even being arrested, and people will use it and twist it to push their own shite
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27824 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

I'm sure his race had nothing to do with this
There's no proof it did. Maybe it did. But there's no proof of it.

More White people get killed by the police than Black people. But I can't name a single White person who was killed by the police.

I'm sure White people have been killed in similar circumstances to this as well. But we never hear about them.

The point is, there isn't any evidence this was racial.
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