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re: Leach fired!

Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by LSU77
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Dec 2006
3370 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:20 pm to
This kid is a spoiled brat punk kid. It was all about him and not the team.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126598 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:23 pm to
When someone reaches a certain age their dad needs to stop fighting their battles, Adam James is a grown arse man that still runs to daddy. He is a D-1 football player he is more than capable to stand up for himself.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55621 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:25 pm to
Adam James has to be embarrassed. Has to be.
Posted by ACL11190
DA U IZ BAK
Member since Dec 2007
30043 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:28 pm to
frick that Adam James kid. I hope people never let him forget about this bullshite.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

If Tulane wouldn't hire Rich Rod because he is Mexican,


Bob Toledo is also Latin American...
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Adam James is a grown arse man


clearly, this is not the truth.
Posted by wrlakers
Member since Sep 2007
5895 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

quote:


Adam James is a grown arse man

clearly, this is not the truth.
You may be right, but I do believe this is true.
quote:

Adam James is a[n] arse
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126598 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:33 pm to
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If Tulane wouldn't hire Rich Rod because he is Mexican


his family is from spain, messicans ant that light skinned
Posted by Pac10LandTiger
Member since Nov 2007
110 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:40 pm to
I beleive you are right about that. I sure as hell never heard of Adam James until all this mess. Now more than likely he is persona non grata on the team now.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55621 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

his family is from spain, messicans ant that light skinned


Many are
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
101921 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:47 pm to
I just got done reading through the contract and as we all know, Leach stands to receive an $800,000 bonus if he was still the head coach as of December 31, 2009. No where in the contract is there anything stated about if Leach is the coach within a certain amount of time around the 31st that he will receive such a bonus. The argument Tech is trying to make is that they fired Leach "with cause" which would be grounds for immediate termination of the contract without any further compensation. Leach's side is claiming he was fired "without cause" which as stated in his contract he would receive $400,000 for every remaining year on his contract which amounts to about $1.6MM to be paid in a lump sum within 30 days of his termination.

In other words.....Leach is fired and it sounds like he wants his $800,000 bonus and his $1.6MM. This will most likely go to court and turn into a he said she said between Leach, the James family and Texas Tech and a jury will decide whether Tech fired Leach with or without cause which will determine whether or not Tech has to pay.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37587 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:57 pm to
Don't judge all Mexicans by the ones that jump the border. There are plenty of light skinned Mexicans.
Posted by wrlakers
Member since Sep 2007
5895 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:59 pm to
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No where in the contract is there anything stated about if Leach is the coach within a certain amount of time around the 31st that he will receive such a bonus.
I still haven't read the contract, but I did read the blog article that discussed it at length. I understood the blog article to say that there was a cure period in the contract, which is common in service contracts, although not as much in employment contracts. Usually, the provision will say that if there's a default the Tech party will notify the Leach party and give him 10 days to cure the default. If he fails to cure, then he can be fired. In the type of situation we have here, it is likely that the Tech party would say that Leach could not cure, which people always say. I've been on both sides of the argument and can see the view of both sides. But a 10-day cure period is kind of odd in a personal services contract. The Tech lawyer who let that in the contract is the one who should be fired.

EDIT: I guess I should add that Leach is probably saying that he can't be fired until 10 days after the "notice" of the default, which means he can't be fired until after December 31, and, therefore, he's entitled to the $800,000 bonus.
This post was edited on 12/30/09 at 3:07 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103122 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

The Tech lawyer who let that in the contract is the one who should be fired.


I'm sure the AD had a hand in that screw-up.

He was the one monkeying around with Leach's contract to introduce a bunch of language at the last second that would give the school all rights to Leach's image used outside of the program.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
33245 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 3:06 pm to
Damn the Texas Tech DT went off on Mike Leach.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15344 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 3:12 pm to
link/description?
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
101921 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 3:14 pm to
Yeah there is a cure period which Tech should be contractually obligated to follow:

V. Termination

A. FOR CAUSE

The University specifically reserves the right to terminate the Agreement for Cause. “Cause” is hereby defined as: Coach’s violation of any material provision of this Agreement, provided however, that if such violation is capable of being cured, University shall allow Coach ten (10) business days to cure such violation, provided, however, that if such violation can be reasonably cured, but cannot be cured within ten (10) business days, Coach shall have a reasonable period of time to cure such violation.

In his affidavit Coach Leach states that he was unaware of any violations he had made, nor was he made aware of them in his suspension letter. It sounds like you were right and Tech will probably say Leach couldn't cure the situation but that reasonable time clause opens back up a window.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140708 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 3:18 pm to
There is also a clause that is for no cause and he can be paid 400k per year for duration. This will be the clause they use in this case.

Now the Tech players are making statements. It seems that they are backing James and seems like the Coaches didnt like him.
This post was edited on 12/30/09 at 3:21 pm
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
33245 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 3:21 pm to
The Texas Tech Center agrees with the firing as well.

Doesn't look good for Leach.
Posted by wrlakers
Member since Sep 2007
5895 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

It sounds like you were right and Tech will probably say Leach couldn't cure the situation but that reasonable time clause opens back up a window.
What I am right about is that this is a good term in a service contract, but not a good term in an employment agreement or what is called a personal services contract. Suppose ABC, Inc. hires XYZ, LLC to perform janitorial services for a period of 10 years. XYZ fails to scrub the toilets sufficently. ABC sends XYZ a letter to do better. XYZ has 10 days to do better or get terminated.

With an employment agreement, you can give an employee a talking to, but a demand to cure a default is usually the kind of thing that creates an unfixable rift.

This post was edited on 12/30/09 at 3:23 pm
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