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re: Larry Johnson has to go too for his racist comments

Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:30 pm to
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:30 pm to
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Right, but Larry Johnson is an idiot. None of the things in his vision (and I hesitate to call something that was thought of for less than 15 seconds a vision) are the least bit plausible.


How is it not plausible?
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:31 pm to
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well not going to lie I agree with everything you said I'm surprised, and especially this part about Obama

You think just because he's black that he voted for Obama?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:32 pm to
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well not going to lie I agree with everything you said I'm surprised, and especially this part about Obama.


I'm one of the 5%-7% of AAs (depending on your stats source) that voted against him in '12. Also voted GOP in '08. I'm black but I was raised to form my own opinions. Sometimes those line up with the majority of other AAs, sometimes not. Either way, I stay true to my convictions.

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I 100% do believe sterling needs some type of punishment btw


I really do not believe he has a place in the NBA. I love basketball, and the NBA in particular, and this is an embarrassment. I would be fricking outraged if Peter Holt (SA Spurs owner) pulled some shite like this.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:33 pm to
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You think just because he's black that he voted for Obama?


Eh, cut him a break. 93%-95% of blacks voted for Obama in '12. I resent it as a conservative, but it's a fair assumption.
Posted by OC504
NOLA
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:33 pm to
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Larry is talking about Black ownership; Black self-determination; the building of a Black institution. You know kind of like the NBA is a White institution and it is a White institution because the owners are all-White with the exception of one. And, a Black controlled league doesn't mean all the players would be Black no more than the NBA currently has all White players


You think PrideoftheSEC is gonna respond????
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:33 pm to
There is one owner in the league who is black. Where is the capital going to come from to create this league Larry Johnson wants?

ETA: And still pay the guys anywhere close to their current salaries?
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 7:34 pm
Posted by LaBornNRaised
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:34 pm to
Im happy you caught my sarcasm. Its gets lost on here too often.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10199 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:34 pm to
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There is one owner in the league who is black. Where is the capital going to come from to create this league Larry Johnson wants?


Pooled capital. Next year Blacks in the U.S. alone will have $1.1 trillion dollars in buying power. The players could pool their money along with other rich Blacks throughout the world. It could be done but I don't know if the will is there.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:36 pm to
I'm just trying to frick with the guy
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10199 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:37 pm to
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There is one owner in the league who is black. Where is the capital going to come from to create this league Larry Johnson wants?

ETA: And still pay the guys anywhere close to their current salaries?



Take it international. The U.S. economy isn't getting better for most Americans. A league owned and consisting of the best Black basketball players would draw an audience anywhere on the globe as well as concessions and TV contracts.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:38 pm to
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swear it is like your mad that Sterling is in trouble. I am more so mad that ESPN won't shutup about it but Jesus. Some of your comments were just as stupid as Larry Johnson's


I get mad because people get n trouble for an opinion on an illegally recorded message. If hecame out and said these things outof nowhere then I could see using an nba post game conference to spew hate speech being a terrible idea and league could discipline simply for using their platform to spread hate..although I think they should be able to say what they want and let free market decide (not peop
e emailing sponsors but actually not showing up and financially supporting the team).
Hes a complete idiot and let the woman lead him into his answers but shes trash too. No matter how idiotic his opinion is I dont think people should be in"trouble" for an opinion in a private convo. And the fact that we have to talk about an 81 year old being in "trouble" shows how babyish we have all become and need daddy go punish the big bully. Seriously afyer the 6th grade you shouldn't know ajyone in trouble if didnt break the law.

And nothing should happen to lj either. I never want peopld to get in trouble for opinion or a joke.it surprises ke how kajy people need someone to he punished if they say something you dont agree with
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 7:39 pm
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:38 pm to
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Pooled capital. Next year Blacks in the U.S. alone will have $1.1 trillion dollars in buying power. The players could pool their money along with other rich Blacks throughout the world. It could be done but I don't know if the will is there.



That seems like a lot of time, money, and risk to avoid dealing with the guy who will be gone by the time such a league could be formed.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:39 pm to
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I'm just trying to frick with the guy


Dammit, I can never tell when folks are serious on here or when they're playin'
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20959 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:40 pm to
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I get mad because people get n trouble for an opinion on an illegally recorded message.


He's not getting in legal trouble, as far as I can tell.

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Hes a complete idiot and let the woman lead him into his answers but shes trash too.


So?


Why should the NBA stand behind him? Of course he should lose his team.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10199 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:41 pm to
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That seems like a lot of time, money, and risk to avoid dealing with the guy who will be gone by the time such a league could be formed.


It takes time and money to make money. And, such a league wouldn't be avoid just Donald Sterling. You think Sterling is alone in thinking like this?! You think the people calling Sterling telling him his girlfriend is on Instagram with Magic Johnson and Matt Kemp are paupers?

No, this would be about the building of a Black institution to build Black wealth. Black wealth has be built through the ownership of businesses just like every other racial/ethnic group's wealth is built.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:42 pm to
Having an opinion that is onky in public by means of an illegal recording shouldn't cosy a man his team. He didmt ven publish his idiotic thoughts. A woman breaking the law is onky reason we know his bigotry. That's childish behavior
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:43 pm to
This is so much less realistic than even the XFL. The NBA franchises are probably worth about $20 billion total. Could they pay the players more than they currently are and still break even? Absolutely.

But you'd probably need $10-15 billion in capital to poach the vast majority of the desirable players from the NBA. That simply isn't going to happen with black franchise owners. Even if you pool the resources, each team is going to need dozens of minority owners, and that is a) not feasible and b) a management disaster.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134050 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:45 pm to
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A woman breaking the law is onky reason we know his bigotry.


She didn't break the law. He isn't on trial.

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That's childish behavior



No more childish than him being a bigot to begin with.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:47 pm to
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How is it not plausible?


Because Whitey has the money. I pray that this could actually happen so we can laugh at the racists blacks when it fails and probably would never even get off the ground.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10199 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:47 pm to
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This is so much less realistic than even the XFL. The NBA franchises are probably worth about $20 billion total. Could they pay the players more than they currently are and still break even? Absolutely.

But you'd probably need $10-15 billion in capital to poach the vast majority of the desirable players from the NBA. That simply isn't going to happen with black franchise owners. Even if you pool the resources, each team is going to need dozens of minority owners, and that is a) not feasible and b) a management disaster.


Don't you know there are Black billionaires in Africa? Oprah isn't close to being the richest Black person in the world. Not even close.

$10-$15 billion is definitely possible if the will is there. That's not a remarkable amount of money when you get rich people together.
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