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re: Lance Armstrong was/is a fricking a-hole
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:26 am to BayouFann
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:26 am to BayouFann
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There’s a difference between a dominant winning a-hole and a scum cheater! He wasn’t singing this tune when he was being investigated. He is not in the same category as MJ
Lance was competing on a level playing field. Everyone was using the same stuff, and he just won more with it.
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:30 am to Hot Carl
The guy was a beast. Anyone denying that is simply an idiot.
With that being said, he should have either just cried on a press conference when the allegations came out and confessed. America love redemption stories.
Either that, or he shouldn't have been as agressive as he was or gone to the lengths he did to drag people through the mud. That was too much and left a bad taste in people's mouths.
With that being said, he should have either just cried on a press conference when the allegations came out and confessed. America love redemption stories.
Either that, or he shouldn't have been as agressive as he was or gone to the lengths he did to drag people through the mud. That was too much and left a bad taste in people's mouths.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:38 am to Hot Carl
Cycling shouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth. The only time anyone’s given a rat’s arse about the Tour is when Lance Armstrong was dominating.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:44 am to YungBuck
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Incorrect, while their are normally 2 time trials and 3 rest days if you had said 19 100+ mile stages plus 2 TTs over 24 days I’d agree.
The shortest stage recently that wasn’t a TT was that incredible mountain stage two years ago and it was 60 miles.
I underlined, in red, every sub 100 mile stage from the most recent 2019 tour de france. You'll see more than 1 non time trial stage under 60 miles
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 9:45 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:47 am to castorinho
I liked the first episode because nothing was going on but the story is becoming tiresome.
He's an all-time talent and an all-time sociopath a-hole. Comes across as such an unbearable d-bag trying to be all cool off camera etc.
Wish he would just go away at this point. He's hardly even saying sorry to anyone.
And I also don't agree with all the rats like Hamilton and Landis but its still unbelievable a guy who made all those horrific decisions against people saying he thought he had no choice at the time, refuses to understand why those guys ratted on him as well.
People do shite when their backs are against the wall, Landis and Hamilton did that as well. And they busted their asses helping him win multiple tours.
No doubt in my mind Lance is the reason Hamilton got busted. Floyd was just an idiot and he knows it.
Wish they would all grow the F up and let shite go. It's been almost 15 years.
He's an all-time talent and an all-time sociopath a-hole. Comes across as such an unbearable d-bag trying to be all cool off camera etc.
Wish he would just go away at this point. He's hardly even saying sorry to anyone.
And I also don't agree with all the rats like Hamilton and Landis but its still unbelievable a guy who made all those horrific decisions against people saying he thought he had no choice at the time, refuses to understand why those guys ratted on him as well.
People do shite when their backs are against the wall, Landis and Hamilton did that as well. And they busted their asses helping him win multiple tours.
No doubt in my mind Lance is the reason Hamilton got busted. Floyd was just an idiot and he knows it.
Wish they would all grow the F up and let shite go. It's been almost 15 years.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 9:55 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:50 am to Melvin
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He definitely had a lot of ball
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:05 am to Hot Carl
Typical Austin liberal ****
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:11 am to castorinho
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Either that, or he shouldn't have been as agressive as he was or gone to the lengths he did to drag people through the mud.
See, I just don't see this as hugely surprising. He got to where he was by being a ruthless competitor.
When the allegations threatened to dethrone him, he responded in a fairly ruthless way to try to keep his legacy. It wasn't a particularly different response from how he would have acted if someone tried to dethrone him as the TDF winner.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:27 am to BayouFann
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There’s a difference between a dominant winning a-hole and a scum cheater! He wasn’t singing this tune when he was being investigated.
Yeah, the worst part is how viciously he went after people that were rightfully calling him out on cheating including lawsuits, knowing that they were right about him.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:44 am to Hot Carl
The fact that every rider was juicing wasn’t made as clear as it should’ve been...
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:29 am to MoarKilometers
quote:AKKSHSUALLLY
And only 15 of 21 stages go over 70 miles fyi.
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The race itself features 21 day-long segments (stages) over a 23-day period and covers around 2,200 miles. The course does slightly vary each year.
the fact remains they average over 100 miles per day by the end.
trying to win 'gotcha' points by pointing out some routes are shorter than others is a new level of stupid. there are various disciplines in the race including the crazy stages with huge mountains which obviously impact the distance.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 11:34 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:33 am to CAD703X
Yes he was
I may have had some sympathy for him since everyone else was doing it and in order to compete in that event you had to do it as well but he was at another level to not only other riders but his own teammates who sacrificed their individual career for him.
If nothing else, he did raise a ton of money for a good cause.
Not much different than Barry Bonds - who was a great player in his own right early in his career but that wasn't enough for him. He couldn't stand not being the best home run hitter of all time.
I may have had some sympathy for him since everyone else was doing it and in order to compete in that event you had to do it as well but he was at another level to not only other riders but his own teammates who sacrificed their individual career for him.
If nothing else, he did raise a ton of money for a good cause.
Not much different than Barry Bonds - who was a great player in his own right early in his career but that wasn't enough for him. He couldn't stand not being the best home run hitter of all time.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:37 am to CAD703X
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the fact remains they average over 100 miles per day by the end.
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23-day period and covers around 2,200 miles
Fact remains 2200 miles divided by 23 days is less than 100 miles per day
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:37 am to MoarKilometers
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I underlined, in red, every sub 100 mile stage from the most recent 2019 tour de france. You'll see more than 1 non time trial stage under 60 miles
you're such a hack for cherry picking last year. everyone how follows cycling knows 2019 was an unusually shorter race coming in at 2,081 which is still just a cunt hair under 100/m day average.
internet keyboard warriors are the worst. why don't you go research the course distances of the 7 tours lance won instead or look at the overall averages like i posted above?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:38 am to MoarKilometers
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Fact remains 2200 miles divided by 23 days is less than 100 miles per day
you just outted yourself as a complete moron.
ever heard of 'rest days'?
no, because you know nothing about the TdF.
good stuff.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:51 am to castorinho
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With that being said, he should have either just cried on a press conference when the allegations came out and confessed. America love redemption stories.
Coverup is worse than the crime. He made it 10 times worse than it had to be.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:58 am to Goldrush25
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Coverup is worse than the crime. He made it 10 times worse than it had to be.
he went after all his former friends & teammates with a vengeance for speaking the truth.
he only got caught because of personal hubris. wanting to compete professionally in triathlons YEEEEARS after he had retired from cycling.
maybe he did, maybe he didn't know they could unfreeze all his old samples & apply new testing methodologies against them to test for banned substances no tests existed for at the time he raced. oops. sucks to get bad advice from his lawyers.
he undid himself because like a gambler he couldn't walk away with his 7 wins and the love of everyone outside a few folks on the cycling forums and his former friends.
but, he couldn't help himself and unleashed financial and lawsuit hell.
its a good thing though; all those people he wronged finally saw the truth come out in the most public way possible.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:59 am to redfish99
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The fact that every rider was juicing wasn’t made as clear as it should’ve been...
I didn't get to see Part II, but Part I made it fairly clear.
All the top guys got busted in 1998, then in 1999, the tour was faster without those guys. It was pretty direct.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:59 am to CAD703X
Is this one of those when citing Wikipedia goes wrong incidents? Some of my favorites
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:02 pm to MoarKilometers
Wanna keep pissin up a rope genius?
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