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Posted on 3/1/12 at 12:58 pm to bisonduck
Posted on 3/1/12 at 1:08 pm to primemover225
lol this is funny. A lot of people don't like ducksflyinthepac. Not even going to read this whole thread.
i was surprised at the 4.45 but he did gain like 10 or so pounds.
That being said i was just watching ESPN and mel kiper said james draft stock rose after the combine(maybe into the 2nd).
i was surprised at the 4.45 but he did gain like 10 or so pounds.
That being said i was just watching ESPN and mel kiper said james draft stock rose after the combine(maybe into the 2nd).
Posted on 3/1/12 at 1:16 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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DucksflyinPAC
you are easily my favorite poster on this site. entertainment for days. keep up the good work
Posted on 3/1/12 at 1:18 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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This is just a wild guess
And that's why you are the worst poster on this board
Posted on 3/1/12 at 6:45 pm to brg0320
He doesn't understand that there has never been a 4.2 ELECTRONIC TIMES run at the combine. Ever.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 8:42 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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If you REALLY believe he ran a 4.29 40m you are delusional. That would literally make him the fastest man alive.
That is simply not true!
Take for instance Bolt, the real fastest man alive. Well, in track they do not run 40 yard dashes, however it has been determined by many running experts going over data, making adjustments ect.. that if he ran one he would get around 3.8 or 3.9 or such. (I cannot remember off the top of my head, but I know it was under 4.0).
And then take DAT, at 4.29, which is only 1 hundred off of 4.30 and it's not a stretch at all. Now, back to 4.29, quite a handful of guys have run 4.29's or better in the 40. The problem we have in this country is that the 40 yard dash in only a American NFL Combine thing. For A)the track world does not use the 40, let alone in yards. It goes in Meters. B)The only people who care about the 40 are only Americans interested in the NFL. C)The reason why one often see's these amazing Senior year high-school times or College, but then when they try them in the NFL combine and don't show quite as good of times is because one needs to add much weight(bulk up) for the NFL.
The true fast guys are not NFL football players, but dedicated Track guys. And dual sport hybrid Track guys/football players out of high-school are forced to pick one. Most often they pick Football- hence they need to bulk up. That is also one reason why the fastest of the fastest guys in the NFL actually run faster while during college. And why, to a point, the game is faster in College. The NFL is all about packing on the weight. Anyways, speedy NFL combine guys can hold their own in the first 20 or so meters of a sprint, but the true track guys eat them up after that.
Bottom line, anything under 4.30 is truly amazing for the NFL combine, yes I agree. But there are some track guys, most of them American- as the 40 yard dash is a American only thing- that have run sub 4.30 40's. But to even pretend that a sub 4.30 is the world record is laughable. As noted, the fastest guy in the world has been scientifically estimated to be able to run a sub 4.00 one, near 3.8 or 3.9. And he is a big man. And everyone knows that little light-weight guys have a advantage of coming out of the gate, such as little D.A.T.
So, 4.2, such as for what LMJ thought he could run, such as what this post is about, I would laugh, (and did so) and same for DAT, I would chuckle. But getting a print out from a friend that DAT ran a 4.29, which is a fraction of a splinter away from 4.30, I don't doubt it.
I will try hard to see if I can have the time to travel south and talk to Chip Kelly and DAT personally and confirm this time with them during the spring game or spring camp. But don't stretch things and assume such a time is a world record or anything, as such is hardly the case- far from it!
*The one mistake that may of accidentally been placed there(but not by me) was listed DAT's time in the 40"m", and it should be 40 "yards", (not meters) as there is no such run in the 40 meters. But I only copied it word for word from my friend who got the data from and he probably messed up by typing in the letter "M" after it, where as all those 100m times are in "M" too, or Meters.
This post was edited on 3/1/12 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 3/1/12 at 8:43 pm to The Ramp
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i don't believe any 40 times but the NFL combine. so many athletes claim to run faster but they never do there
See my above longer post as it explains why that is...
Posted on 3/1/12 at 8:44 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
He doesn't understand that there has never been a 4.20 ELECTRONIC TIMES run at the NFL combine. Ever.
See my above longer post as it explains why that is...
Posted on 3/1/12 at 8:54 pm to DucksflyinPAC
You're making excuses. Gotcha.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 9:47 pm to DucksflyinPAC
quote:
See my above longer post as it explains why that is...
quote:
See my above longer post as it explains why that is...
The expert here
Posted on 3/1/12 at 9:47 pm to hg
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You're making excuses. Gotcha.
Not hardly...
Posted on 3/1/12 at 9:52 pm to DucksflyinPAC
I haven't followed the combine, what did LJ run?
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:01 pm to TigerTatorTots
quote:
I haven't followed the combine, what did LJ run?
LMJ ran a unofficial 4.37 which was later posted as 4.45 official. So 4.45
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:09 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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LaMichael James says he'll run a 4.2 at the combine
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So 4.45
So he's slow. What's the 13 pages for?
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:28 pm to DucksflyinPAC
quote:
That is simply not true!
Take for instance Bolt, the real fastest man alive. Well, in track they do not run 40 yard dashes, however it has been determined by many running experts going over data, making adjustments ect.. that if he ran one he would get around 3.8 or 3.9 or such. (I cannot remember off the top of my head, but I know it was under 4.0).
And then take DAT, at 4.29, which is only 1 hundred off of 4.30 and it's not a stretch at all. Now, back to 4.29, quite a handful of guys have run 4.29's or better in the 40. The problem we have in this country is that the 40 yard dash in only a American NFL Combine thing. For A)the track world does not use the 40, let alone in yards. It goes in Meters. B)The only people who care about the 40 are only Americans interested in the NFL. C)The reason why one often see's these amazing Senior year high-school times or College, but then when they try them in the NFL combine and don't show quite as good of times is because one needs to add much weight(bulk up) for the NFL.
The true fast guys are not NFL football players, but dedicated Track guys. And dual sport hybrid Track guys/football players out of high-school are forced to pick one. Most often they pick Football- hence they need to bulk up. That is also one reason why the fastest of the fastest guys in the NFL actually run faster while during college. And why, to a point, the game is faster in College. The NFL is all about packing on the weight. Anyways, speedy NFL combine guys can hold their own in the first 20 or so meters of a sprint, but the true track guys eat them up after that.
Bottom line, anything under 4.30 is truly amazing for the NFL combine, yes I agree. But there are some track guys, most of them American- as the 40 yard dash is a American only thing- that have run sub 4.30 40's. But to even pretend that a sub 4.30 is the world record is laughable. As noted, the fastest guy in the world has been scientifically estimated to be able to run a sub 4.00 one, near 3.8 or 3.9. And he is a big man. And everyone knows that little light-weight guys have a advantage of coming out of the gate, such as little D.A.T.
So, 4.2, such as for what LMJ thought he could run, such as what this post is about, I would laugh, (and did so) and same for DAT, I would chuckle. But getting a print out from a friend that DAT ran a 4.29, which is a fraction of a splinter away from 4.30, I don't doubt it.
I will try hard to see if I can have the time to travel south and talk to Chip Kelly and DAT personally and confirm this time with them during the spring game or spring camp. But don't stretch things and assume such a time is a world record or anything, as such is hardly the case- far from it!
*The one mistake that may of accidentally been placed there(but not by me) was listed DAT's time in the 40"m", and it should be 40 "yards", (not meters) as there is no such run in the 40 meters. But I only copied it word for word from my friend who got the data from and he probably messed up by typing in the letter "M" after it, where as all those 100m times are in "M" too, or Meters.
Disagree.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:36 pm to pwejr88
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So he's slow. What's the 13 pages for?
The 13 pages are for those arguing how I listed that D.A.T had been timed at UO with a laser in the 40, at 4.29. And some are taking exception to that. And DAT, what he can run or not, has nothing to do with this original post of LMJ that brought you into this thread.
Now, if you must know, I was not the original poster. And even the OP did not say LMJ could do that, but only provided a link where LMJ said he was confident he could. Translation, I know LMJ was being trained down in L.A. and by the NFL record setting 40 time speedster, and LMJ probably had some good hand times from him. Thus, he was probably too confident. And as we all know now, he came up much short. Personally, I chuckled when I saw this post and read where LMJ said he was going to run that. Someday he might get 4.39, but not 4.29, unlike D.A.T who really did! And DAT would probably get beat in a longer race of 100m or 200m by LMJ, as said by LMJ in a interview last year as DAT's strong point seems to be his quicker burst off the starting line. LMJ is slow off the line but picks up speed way down field. I easily believe however DAT can and has run a legit laser timed 40.
*I did email a source in the UO football department just 20 mins ago as well as a reporter that covers UO much. I expect to hear back from either or both of them either tomorrow or Monday if they are not too busy to respond to me. And then I can independently confirm if a fellow Duck on another blog(who seems to be incredibly anal and picky and keeping accurate times of Duck players), was right or not about DAT's 4.29 laser timed 40 done at UO which I shared on this website...
Until then folks, let this post die. And then when I get word from my independent sources, I will start my own post and all you others attacking my claim can kiss my arse.
Posted on 3/2/12 at 3:40 pm to DucksflyinPAC
Is this anchored? I hope not. It's the gift that keeps giving.
ETA: nope. It's alive and well.
ETA: nope. It's alive and well.
This post was edited on 3/2/12 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 3/2/12 at 4:22 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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*I did email a source in the UO football department just 20 mins ago as well as a reporter that covers UO much. I expect to hear back from either or both of them either tomorrow or Monday if they are not too busy to respond to me. And then I can independently confirm if a fellow Duck on another blog(who seems to be incredibly anal and picky and keeping accurate times of Duck players), was right or not about DAT's 4.29 laser timed 40 done at UO which I shared on this website...
Holy shite
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