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re: Kobe or Lebron rollcall
Posted on 3/8/10 at 7:29 pm to shel311
Posted on 3/8/10 at 7:29 pm to shel311
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How does 3 rings won 8-10 years ago factor into who is a better play now?
Is it 3 or 4 rings??? I am losing track. Bottom line. Shaq helped Kobe win those Titles. BUT Lebron has had his chances as well and failed. If he were to EVER win one, it BETTER be THIS YEAR.
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 7:32 pm to dukke v
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UT Lebron has had his chances as well and failed.
And Lebron taking that team of scrubs to the finals is more impressive than any one title Kobe has ever won.
I guess it's Lebron's fault and he just doesn't have what it takes to win since he doesn't have the luxury of playing with the most dominant player in the NBA and then playing with the best supporting cast in the NBA.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 7:37 pm to shel311
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And Lebron taking that team of scrubs to the finals is more impressive than any one title Kobe has ever won.
No its not.
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I guess it's Lebron's fault and he just doesn't have what it takes to win
Think about this.
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since he doesn't have the luxury of playing with the most dominant player in the NBA
Like I said Shaq helped Kobe. But who's to say that they would have won the Titles WITHOUT KOBE???
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and then playing with the best supporting cast in the NBA.
Would the Lakers won the Title WITHOUT KOBE last year??? OK You win.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 7:40 pm to dukke v
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Like I said Shaq helped Kobe. But who's to say that they would have won the Titles WITHOUT KOBE???
Maybe they don't, but are you completely ignoring the fact that Kobe played with the most dominant player in the NBA while Lebron led guys like Drew Gooden and Sasha Pavlovic to a finals?
That shite isn't even comparable.
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Would the Lakers won the Title WITHOUT KOBE last year??? OK You win
That has ZERO to do with the fact that Lebron's cast just hasn't remotely compared to Kobe's recently. They're getting better but still not in the same category.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:16 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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He can take over a game, but he isn't nearly as consistently dominant as he once was. He's not out there dominating games night in and night out like it's 2005.
He's not as durable or as athletic, but as someone who has watched Kobe with an unhealthy obsession for a decade, I can tell you that his play at the beginning of the season before the broken finger was the best basketball he's played since the February that he averaged 40ppg. He was averaging 30/6/6 while shooting 50% with, at the time, 3 game winners. The injuries without a doubt have affected his play in a huge way the last few months. Kobe was the MVP before the broken finger. Not to say he would still be without the injuries because LeBron has been fricking nuts this season, but his play was significantly lowered by the finger especially.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:26 pm to shel311
I made this just for you Lebron Lovers.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:29 pm to theunknownknight
Trent Dilfer > Dan Marino
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:31 pm to mattz1122
Oooh I can do this too.
Warren Moon > Joe Montana
Karl Malone > Magic Johnson
Warren Moon > Joe Montana
Karl Malone > Magic Johnson
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:33 pm to Message Board User
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Mark Madsen > Dwayne Wade
FACT. Mad dog was the glue in L.A.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:34 pm to theunknownknight
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Oooh I can do this too.
Warren Moon > Joe Montana
Karl Malone > Magic Johnson
Moon and Malone don't have rings.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:37 pm to Message Board User
Samaki Walker > Charles Barkley
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:37 pm to mattz1122
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Moon and Malone don't have rings.
uh...obviously.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:39 pm to theunknownknight
So how could they possibly be better?
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:40 pm to mattz1122
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So how could they possibly be better?
Exactly
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:42 pm to theunknownknight
Yep
Btw, nobody compares Moon to Montana and Malone to Magic. Maybe you'd have more of a point if you compared Marino to Montana, but that doesn't mean much to me either. Rings are relevant to compare when all other things are equal between players. Otherwise, it's too simplistic of a measure to use.
Btw, nobody compares Moon to Montana and Malone to Magic. Maybe you'd have more of a point if you compared Marino to Montana, but that doesn't mean much to me either. Rings are relevant to compare when all other things are equal between players. Otherwise, it's too simplistic of a measure to use.
This post was edited on 3/8/10 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:44 pm to AlexLSU
Perhaps I was being hyperbolic with that and focusing too much on his play recently. I respect your opinion, and you're definitely more familiar with his game than I am.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:51 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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Perhaps I was being hyperbolic with that and focusing too much on his play recently. I respect your opinion, and you're definitely more familiar with his game than I am.
Stop being nice, Kobe and Lebron lovers are supposed to argue about every single point...
This post was edited on 3/8/10 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 3/8/10 at 11:27 pm to theunknownknight
Kobe. LeBron is too soft. One minor injury and he is sitting out games all of a sudden. Kobe played through multiple injuries for awhile and still was carrying the team and hitting game-winners
Posted on 3/8/10 at 11:45 pm to SitchProdigy
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LeBron is too soft. One minor injury and he is sitting out games all of a sudden
Whaaa?
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Kobe played through multiple injuries for awhile and still was carrying the team and hitting game-winners
Yep, and Kobe is not remotely playing like he did at the beginning of the year as a result of not sitting out to heal up 100%.
This post was edited on 3/8/10 at 11:46 pm
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