re: Kiper is lying about She Sanders

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That should be understood to some degree on this board because of the career of Drew Brees.

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Thinking Brees and sanders are the same lol

No, I didn't say that. That was a more general point to the people who were ignorantly trying to make it all about size, speed, arm strength.

This is the same narrative you do over and over. You make it about race, and start complaining about a "victim" narrative. I'm not interested.
I've already said I have no opinion on the other stuff. It may be true that Shedeur didn't handle the meetings well. I don't necessarily doubt that. (I just have no opinion.) And it may have been influenced by Deion's angle of getting with the right team, and not wanting Shedeur to play for some teams, which he talked about publicly multiple times.

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You make it about race,

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Wait wut lol

Please quote where I made this about race lol

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. It may be true that Shedeur didn't handle the meetings well. I don't necessarily doubt that. (I just have no opinion.)

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Of course you don’t lol. Because it’s likely true and a huge part of why he fell, so instead of being honest and saying, “yea that was a huge problem and reason why he fell, and his skills weren’t good enough to overcome it,” you want to conveniently put your head up your arse and say, “welllll I don’t want to talk about that”

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And it may have been influenced by Deion's angle of getting with the right team, and not wanting Shedeur to play for some teams, which he talked about publicly multiple times.

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Lol. Teams will say “frick you and where you want to play” if the player warrants it. He clearly didn’t have the other skills teams valued to make them overlook this.

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You use specific language when you're talking about black people. I've seen you do it with reference to multiple high-profile people in sports recently. That word you misspelled is one of your go-tos. It's trite, but anyway, it doesn't even apply here. None of what I said had anything to do with that "story" you claimed.

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Holy shite lol. Imagine making up this much stuff because you need to inject race into this.

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think there are a lot of misperceptions floating around about Shedeur, and that may have clouded the judgments of evaluations.

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What are they? Give details about what you think is right. What you think is wrong. What the rumors are and what the gossip.

You can’t say, “I don’t have enough info and I don’t want to talk about it,” then the around and say, “but what they believe is probably false”

Do you not understand how dumb this makes you look lol

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Shedeur didn't have character issues in college. He has a lot of haters.

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His actions the last few days aren’t character issues? If that’s what you believe, then this all makes sense lol

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It’s already scripted. He was “dissed” and “disrespected” at the draft. Now his comeback arc begins

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Stop lol

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But let's look at the Steelers, since Tomlin did speak about meeting with Shedeur. Is the plan to go into 2025 with Aaron Rodgers?

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They just drafted a National Championship winning QB that grew up in Pennsylvania in the 6th round. Clearly preferred him over Shedeur

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making up this much stuff

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That's what you and OP have done.
I know what your MO is. It's narratives for you.
You bring up a witch hunt and all this nonsense because you don't know hot to talk. That's also why you repeat lol over and over like a cracked-out teenager.

Me saying I think franchises made bad decisions to pass on him -- that's not even close to your dramatic narratives about a witch hunt and whatever else. Nothing about that portrays Shedeur as a "victim". That's just all your narrow mind is able to come up with.

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You can’t say, “I don’t have enough info and I don’t want to talk about it,” then the around and say, “but what they believe is probably false”

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Again, that's not what I said. You need to learn to stop adding your mangled spin to things that are said.
I said have no opinion on predraft meetings.
I also said I think there are misperceptions out there about him (generally), and that may have had an effect. That's just speculation based on what's floating around. (It is possible to speculate without having a formed opinion. It's all a fruitless endeavor with this amount of distorted and false info flying around, though. I mean that in reference to this thread.)

As far as the misperceptions, they're essentially all about character -- overly arrogant, disrespectful, questions about preparation, etc.
I shouldn't have to repeat this, but one more time, I have no opinion on any predraft meetings. If I'm speculating, it may be true that he went into meetings arrogant, with an attitude of dictating terms. If so, that's something that would need to be put in the context of who his dad is, and how his dad took that angle of dictating terms publicly. When a player's dad/coach repeatedly says publicly that an approach of dictating terms and refusing to be with some organizations is the way to go, it really shouldn't be surprising if that is the approach Shedeur took. If that is what took place, an organization in need of a QB should be able to look beyond that to a degree and say, "Okay, we see the angle, and where it's stemming from. And the motive is really just to be in good circumstances to succeed. It's a very unique situation, and we'll go beyond this to get our guy." If you believe in the player, that's the contextual angle.
A deeper look at Shedeur's character would see a guy who has been good with preparation, and while he definitely has a "flashy" style like his dad, also does have a more humble and respectful side as well. That flash and showmanship is just something that's part of his personality, and that shouldn't be surprising, being the son of Deion. But there's much more to him than that. Listen to him talk in extended interviews and you'll find a more thoughtful, respectful young guy. Much more thoughtful and respectful than you spamming the board with lols and misrepresentations.
We don't need to talk more about his arrogance or flashiness or any of that. He's Deion's son, and it's part of his personality. Maybe he subdues some of that as he branches out on his own more or maybe not. Some of it's a bit much for me, but I understand where he comes from, and that there's much more to him than that.
Okay, we're done, Tacky. Bump the thread sometime in the future when there's more to actually talk about if you want to keep going.