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re: Karr wants to stay in the Catholic league, Chalmette wants in a 9 team Northshore district

Posted on 11/20/25 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by Tiger985
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 12:49 pm to
Honestly, why isn't Chalmette better? I really think they should be.

Let's look at St. Charles Parish. Overall it's about the same population at St. Bernard. They have 2 high schools, one on the east bank and one on the West Bank. The St Charles population is equally split by the river. Both Hahnville and Destrehan are perennial powers. This in spite of the fact they they still bleed some kids into NOLA and St John Parish at St Charles Catholic, another good program.

Do they just lack athletes? It's the 3rd largest high school in the state, great facilities. I'm not saying they should be Hahnville or Destrehan but they should be able to compete with bigger schools.

It's confounding.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 12:54 pm to
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I'm not saying they should be Hahnville


I mean we did beat them not that long ago…
Posted by geauxcats10
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:01 pm to
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I mean we did beat them not that long ago…


Dude are you serious?!

He means why are you not consistently on the same level as Destrehan and Hanhville when everything is pretty much equal.
Posted by TROLA
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:02 pm to
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At the 5A level?


Not all in the Orleans are 5a .. in shv you have Byrd and Shreve. In br you have liberty and Woodlawn
Posted by Tiger985
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:35 pm to
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He means why are you not consistently on the same level as Destrehan and Hanhville when everything is pretty much equal.


I mean it would be equal if either Hahnville or Destrehan shut down and St Charles Parish had one high school. How good would that team be.

Hahnville and Destrehan are each drawing on half the population Chalmette is and both are powers.

Now, as I said, St Charles Parish has always been drowning in athletes, they have a good recreation system, the middle schools all have high quality football programs. But if St Charles Parish can support two schools with multiple state championships each at the highest level, Chalmette should be able to compete in the Catholic League. (Not counting Karr but no one else competing with them either)
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 1:40 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:36 pm to
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He means why are you not consistently on the same level as Destrehan and Hanhville when everything is pretty much equal.


The past few years I’ll concede Destrehan has been better and a state contender… but Hahnville really hasn’t since Salt left and of course we beat them last year
Posted by geauxcats10
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:49 pm to
you are totally right! I was just trying to give them a little benefit of the doubt.

Basically they are just an athletically deficient area of the state.

But 10000X facts… they should be able to compete in the Catholic League
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 2:04 pm to
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Basically they are just an athletically deficient area of the state. But 10000X facts… they should be able to compete in the Catholic League


Now you’re trying to have it both ways… if we were athletically deficient no one would expect us to compete in the Catholic League

Realistically we should do like we did in the old days and schedule three cupcakes, and then try to win one district game and hope the power points carry us into the nonselect top 28

This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 2:09 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 2:21 pm to
River parishes as a whole are whole different animal
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 2:32 pm to
According to the second redistricting proposal, Karr and Chalmette are in the Catholic league.


Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:50 pm to
Poor chalmette. They don’t deserve this considering all factors.

And the LP and ascension alliance is sad and pitiful..
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:56 pm to
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River parishes as a whole are whole different animal


I understand the river parishes. I laid it out.

Destrehan is drawing from a population of about 26k.

Same for Hahnville. Chalmette is drawing from about 45k.

Destrehan and Hahnville about 1,500 students each.
Chalmette like 2,400.

I'm not saying Chalmette should be winning state championships. I'm saying they seem to be underperforming unless St. Bernard is some kind of athletic desert.

And they should be able to compete in the Catholic league, minus Karr.

The football team should be at least as good as the band which always impresses me, at games and in parades.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 4:23 pm to
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Not all in the Orleans are 5a


All the ones I listed are

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in shv you have Byrd and Shreve. In br you have liberty and Woodlawn


Ok so half as many

My point still stands
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 4:36 pm to
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Do they just lack athletes?


Short answer? Yes.

Long answer? There is no coordination between the middle schools and the high school. Our teams lack discipline. The kids are physically smaller - blame generational crack use. The demographics are worse… tons of poor and single mom families compared to st Charles. Our recreation dept no longer sponsors tackle football. There is a travel team here, which plays in a Northshore league. Travel baseball is huge here… but the teams are not very good. Lastly our administration really did not emphasize sports although that is changing with our new principal.

Someone mentioned the band… we have an amazing band director and a ton of financial support here for fine arts from the Meraux Foundation, and that includes the band.

Yes the facilities are nice… thanks FEMA! But they are not being maintained and supplemented.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 5:11 pm to
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There is no coordination between the middle schools and the high school.


See I don’t get that… like wtf are the middle schools trying to prove I never saw their scores in the paper

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. Lastly our administration really did not emphasize sports although that is changing with our new principal.


Mr. Warner didn’t believe in firing anyone and I get it, he came from a different time and was too nice (to his detriment when that guy attacked him)

(FUN FACT: Mr. Warner was probably the last sitting principal at any school in the USA who worked at that school before it integrated)

As a result we’ve kept Tucker and Stockton too long… it’s not that they’re not great guys or haven’t won or couldn’t (Tucker is okay and Stockton’s team with Mitch went to state), but I just think we’re capable of attracting better coaches. I know where Tucker lives, it’s not like he’s not well compensated

And as for Stockton I guess we’ll just let him coach out his last days as he gets us mentioned on TV with Mitch every now and then lol and we care about football and baseball more

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The kids are physically smaller - blame generational crack use. The demographics are worse… tons of poor and single mom families compared to st Charles.


I don’t think we’re a crack parish… more like weed and pills… and St. Charles has places like St. Rose.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 5:57 pm
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:31 pm to
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There is no coordination between the middle schools and the high school.


There used to be at least at the run level. Of course we never passed back then anyway ha.

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The kids are physically smaller - blame generational crack use.


Always been like that for

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Our recreation dept no longer sponsors tackle football. There is a travel team here, which plays in a Northshore league.


That's sad that went away.

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Travel baseball is huge here… but the teams are not very good.


That's not shocking it was really starting to pick up when I was younger.

Baseball coaches were never awful. Its just that the good kids in the Parish all went to better baseball schools in the Catholic league.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:32 pm to
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Baseball coaches were never awful. It’s just that the good kids in the Parish all went to better baseball schools in the Catholic league.
we had good baseball teams though… we made that quarterfinal run in 2000 I think and a semifinal run three months before Katrina

Now we have Hannan’s old coach from that period
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:43 am to
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Now we have Hannan’s old coach from that period


Doug is a good coach. Time for Tucker to be sent packing.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:50 am to
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Doug is a good coach. Time for Tucker to be sent packing.



yep. Love Dougie and his family.

Tucker I can't believe is still there...better than Jurich though
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:23 am to
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Tucker I can't believe is still there...better than Jurich though
Jurich was there just one year… don’t think he was ever meant to be long-term
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