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re: Just got an ESPN alert on my phone that the AAF is suspending operations

Posted on 4/2/19 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 2:42 pm to
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This is all manziel’s fault.



Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 2:47 pm to


Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 2:55 pm to
Has anyone used the AAF app / gambling part? I know it got a lot of press before the season, but haven't heard anything about it recently, and I haven't used it.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that smells something nasty here.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 2:58 pm to
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Doesn't this go against the principle of fiduciary responsibility?


What we don't know is, what is his exact financial/ownership situation in the league. If he owns more than 50% of the league stock, it's going to be hard to prove a violation of fiduciary duty. If it's under 50%, hells yes.

But even, they aren't a publically traded company, so any course of action has to come through the courts. And even if he is found liable to pay some damages, that, plus the 70 million he sunk into the league, may still be a bargain for the tech.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 3:03 pm to
Never used it as I haven't gambled on sports since high school when I lost what I thought was a sure bet to a rabid NC State fan and had to shave my head. I guess I can thank Chris Weinke for throwing all those picks and helping Florida State lose their second AAC game ever for not being a degenerate gambler.
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 3:04 pm
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 3:03 pm to
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He started over as a back-room finance associate at a used-car dealership, quickly figuring out that there was more money to be made in financing used cars than selling them – especially to people with bad credit. They could be charged high interest rates, but they’d still do whatever they could to make the payments, because if their cars were repossessed, they’d often lose their jobs. That kept default rates down. Dundon made millions.


Guy should be gelded.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 4:15 pm to
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quote:
XFL ? @realXFLfootball 2h2 hours ago

Don’t worry. We’re not folding. #XFL2020
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 4:19 pm to
Not too surprising. League was mostly ignored by casual fans and attendance wasn’t great.

Hopefully the XFL will do better.
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 4:27 pm
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 4:46 pm to
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Not too surprising. League was mostly ignored by casual fans and attendance wasn’t great.


That's not the issue here.
Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 4:49 pm to
So basically they got swindled by a giant douche bag? Sounds about right.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 4:52 pm to
It isn't but it's a factor. If the league had overflow crowds and top notch ratings they might not have had to bring in Dundon in the first place. At the very least they would've had more options who probably weren't just in it for parts.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 4:55 pm to
I didn’t think it would fall apart this quickly. So what keeps the same thing from happening to the XFL next year?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 5:01 pm to
You do realize operating income and profit are not the same thing, right?
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
8956 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 5:08 pm to
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So what keeps the same thing from happening to the XFL next year?


The XFL won't have to bring in an outside investor to inject cash early on. Vince already secured the leagues funding by selling off WWE stock for a frick ton of money.
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 5:09 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68635 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 5:10 pm to
I just bought an AAF football. Needed a new ball and this one is “retro” now. Will be cool to have in a few years.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
18225 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 5:13 pm to
I hope the XFL survives. I don’t know how Polian and Ebersol didn’t plan better to keep the AAF afloat for at least a few years after seeing how the XFL mess unfolded 18 years ago.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78793 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 5:14 pm to
Yes. If the league looked like more than just a money loser they could've found someone to give them operating income that wasn't just interested in an app.
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 5:16 pm to
Trump: “If God wanted football in the spring, he wouldn’t have created baseball.”
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40270 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 5:21 pm to
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I don’t know how Polian and Ebersol didn’t plan better to keep the AAF afloat for at least a few years after seeing how the XFL mess unfolded 18 years ag


That's why I would kill to see their finances.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40270 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 5:23 pm to
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If the league had overflow crowds and top notch ratings they might not have had to bring in Dundon in the first place.


I don't think that was ever realistic to expect, do you?

A minor league football team is going to draw minor league crowds. Maybe they should have played in small stadiums, found other ways to trim expenses.
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