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re: Josh Pate deepthroating that Alabama dong
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:35 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:35 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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If you make a 100% on a math test with 3rd grade multiplication problems and I make a 98% on an advanced trigonometry test, that doesn’t make you better at math by default. There was a large discrepancy in the strength of schedule between Alabama and Florida state. You can say that isn’t their fault and I wouldn’t argue, but it’s still a fact. Some of y’all have gotten waaaay too comfortable with the term “power 5” like there are 5 equal entities. It’s not the case and never has been
Ok, now do Cincinnati and TCU getting in.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:36 pm to Jon Ham
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The only explanation we need is why in the frick is Texas in the playoff and not FSU?

You obviously won’t hear this because you’ve refused to, but there was ZERO chance Bama was getting in without Texas. That’s pretty obvious with Texas being seeded higher. And they weren’t getting in over Florida State without Travis being injured.
Alabama’s resume wasn’t a factor besides the fact that they didn’t have 2 losses to eliminate them. They get in on the “eye test,” because the committee “thought” they were one of the 4 “best.” Which I agree that they probably are. The 2 biggest problems I have:
1) If you’re putting Bama in because you think they’re one of the 4 best, just say that. And be consistent. There is not 1 member of that committee that could honestly say with a stringy face that they don’t think Georgia is one of the “best” 4 teams, that they wouldn’t take them on a neutral site over both Washington and Texas. Which brings me to
2) they don’t have the humility to concede that who they “think” are the 4 “best” teams means shite. We are all proven wrong every year, every week. Washington was a 10-point dog. Bama was a 6-point dog.
And using the “how well they’ve looked the last few weeks” logic is utter bullshite as well. Just a week ago Bama needed a miracle muffed punt by Auburn’s back up punt returner and an even more miraculous 4th and goal from the 31 conversion to escape Jordan Hare, a place where just a week before that same Auburn team got absolutely pantsed by New Mexico State 31-10. AT HOME.
And that was no fluke, Auburn got absolutely dominated. From their own website’s game review:
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New Mexico State (9-3, 6-1) possessed the football for 38 minutes and 50 seconds to Auburn's 21:10, outgaining the Tigers 414-213.
That is an arse whooping. That happened 2 WEEKS AGO.
Aww, frick it. Just exercises in futility at this point. Nobody’s changing their minds. Everybody has moved to their respective corners and put their fingers in their ears and is just trying to out shout the other side. I’m right. You’re wrong. But I will wave the white flag.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:37 pm to grizzlylongcut
He’s been like that since the SEC media day this season, he got to interview Saban and has been a changed man ever since. 

Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:38 pm to Jon Ham
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The only explanation we need is why in the frick is Texas in the playoff
Because they beat Alabama.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:38 pm to Jon Ham
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1 loss to one-loss team
They sure have that metric over Florida State don’t they, “best loss”.
Bama being in over undefeated Florida State is a joke and college football looks foolish. Why even play the games? 4 days ago every “analyst” swore to me that Oregon was 9 points better than Washington. Alabama needed two miracles in the last 4 minutes to beat Auburn just a week ago. Now y’all are telling me that unequivocally they are one of the best 4 teams in America.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:41 pm to smash williams
I like Josh, but he does slurp both Bama and Dan Lanning/Oregon.
He tries to hide it, but you can tell there are some relationships he has where he tends to lose his "neutral and unbiased" observer POV. That's 100% okay and just human nature but he will scoff at people some times it seems like when it's brought up.
I'll also note that there are times where he paints LSU in a prettier light than he probably should as well. Don't blame him for it either because his access to info is what makes him so good.
He tries to hide it, but you can tell there are some relationships he has where he tends to lose his "neutral and unbiased" observer POV. That's 100% okay and just human nature but he will scoff at people some times it seems like when it's brought up.
I'll also note that there are times where he paints LSU in a prettier light than he probably should as well. Don't blame him for it either because his access to info is what makes him so good.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:44 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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My opinion is correct. It's not that Bama didn't deserve a playoff spot. It's that there were only four, and Bama was 5th in line.
There is no correct and incorrect in an opinion, that’s the very nature of them. They’re subjective or else they wouldn’t be labeled opinions. Try not to be so self righteous.
It would appear your opinion isn’t shared by those that matter though.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:46 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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There is no correct and incorrect in an opinion, that’s the very nature of them. They’re subjective or else they wouldn’t be labeled opinions
The selection committee just outed themselves as the most subjective though.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:48 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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There is no correct and incorrect in an opinion, that’s the very nature of them. They’re subjective or else they wouldn’t be labeled opinions. Try not to be so self righteous.
Bruv you literally just did this last page you said the committee got it right, that's your opinion that they got it right. Now you are preaching against doing that

Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:50 pm to grizzlylongcut
The melt on this site is embarrassing. Go outside and lift weights.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:51 pm to grizzlylongcut
You're really taking this hard.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:52 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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There is no correct and incorrect in an opinion, that’s the very nature of them.
Nonsense. Opinions informed by objective data are more accurate than opinions formed by bias.
Guess where you fall...
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It would appear your opinion isn’t shared by those that matter though.
Those that "matter" completely invalidated their own process this year. None of it really "matters," but the majority opinion is that they got it wrong.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:53 pm to TigerFan91
Yes, it my opinion they got it right. I also said I could see the logic behind FSU getting the 4 seed, or any other combination of Bama, Texas, or Michigan being left out.
What’s really mind blowing to me is that most on here and most that follow the sport agree that Alabama is better than FSU. Most agree that a 12-1 SEC champion has a good enough resume to make the playoff. So with those two things being the case, why the outrage? Didn’t the committee do their stated job in the end? Like I said, someone with a legitimate case had to be left out. First time over, but it happened.
What’s really mind blowing to me is that most on here and most that follow the sport agree that Alabama is better than FSU. Most agree that a 12-1 SEC champion has a good enough resume to make the playoff. So with those two things being the case, why the outrage? Didn’t the committee do their stated job in the end? Like I said, someone with a legitimate case had to be left out. First time over, but it happened.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:55 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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What’s really mind blowing to me is that most on here and most that follow the sport agree that Alabama is better than FSU.
So. What.
Ohio State, Georgia, and Oregon are all probably better than Florida State. That's an idiotic way to determine a champion.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:55 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Opinions informed by objective data are more accurate than opinions formed by bias.
Why don’t you expound on that.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:57 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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That's an idiotic way to determine a champion.
It’s not
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Ohio State, Georgia, and Oregon are all probably better than Florida State
Those teams lacked a clear from beginning major weighted factor in the selection process, being a conference champion.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:58 pm to grizzlylongcut
No problem with his opinion, he knows quite a bit about college football & is entitled to it. But Sunday nite he wayyyyy overdid it, to the extent I changed channels. He made his point in the first 3-4-5 minutes & then went on & on & on.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:59 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Why don’t you expound on that.
No, I don't think I'll be spending any time teaching you what words mean.
Thanks for the offer, though.

Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:59 pm to Jon Ham
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You argue that the H2H winner MUST get the nod when the guidelines don’t say that
How many times do I need to link this?
LINK
Search for the word must.
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You don’t want to talk about SOS being on that same list of criteria,
I don’t need to, they played head to head and already told you that by TX beating bama, it improved Bamas SOS relative to TX
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and when forced to, you make an embarrassing argument that one game means more than a full season.
It’s in the guidelines

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Now you follow me here and demand to get rekt again.
That’s not what happened. I saw you for like the 10th time saying the same thing (at least you didn’t copy and paste verbatim this time). You are the one avoiding disputing what I said.
Cute meme though.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:00 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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It’s not

Of course it is.
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Those teams lacked a clear from beginning major weighted factor in the selection process, being a conference champion.
Florida State didn't. They also lacked a loss.
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