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re: "Jordan Never Flopped"

Posted on 5/30/13 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by Antiheroaz
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Posted on 5/30/13 at 7:56 pm to
Nah. Couldnt care less what he wins or doesnt win. Its his actions. I'll not like him all the same.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 5/30/13 at 8:04 pm to
You took hours to find that one video of Jordan "flopping" (not even really a flop)?


Are there any flop compilation videos of MJ on youtube? I'll hang up and listen.
This post was edited on 5/30/13 at 8:05 pm
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:34 pm to
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Time makes most of us stupid I guess.


It will make you look stupid, you are correct. The fact that pro Jordan arguments always compare Jordan's ENTIRE career to only half of LeBron's and say that's why Jordan is the better player. Ignorant.

I've always made the assertion that James has the potential to surpass Jordan as the greatest of all time and I don't think I'm being irrational in believing that.

LeBron carried a Cavs team to the finals that barely won double digit games the next year without him. After Jordan left, the Bulls were in the playoffs the very next year.

"Oh he needed help so he ran to Wade and Bosh"
Yeah well, Jordan didn't do jack shite until Pippen, Phil Jackson and role players.

"Jordan was the better scorer"
Maybe, maybe not. We all remember Jordan's beastly plays from the latter half of his career when he hit his peak. A peak that LBJ is just starting to hit.

"Yeah well, Jordan won 6 rings. James only has 1"
Surrounded by the right guys and coach (like Jordan) James went to the Finals his first year with Miami, won the 2nd year and will most likely get to his third straight title and win his 2nd straight. James is at the beginning of his peak run.

"Jordan is one of the greats. James isn't even close being the best player ever"

James is better passer, rebounder, defender, etc.. than Jordan. Jordan as a pure scorer certainly has a nasty killer instinct that James lacks, but that's not his game.

Jordan as of now still is the greatest of all time. I think when all is said and done at the end of his career, James will knock him off from the top spot.
Posted by PianoTiger
LeBron Fan
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:53 pm to
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I've always made the assertion that James has the potential to surpass Jordan as the greatest of all time and I don't think I'm being irrational in believing that.

Not irrational. Has the potential.
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LeBron carried a Cavs team to the finals that barely won double digit games the next year without him. After Jordan left, the Bulls were in the playoffs the very next year.

Mo Williams had injuries throughout the season, Big Z retired, Shaq left...quite a different team. For Jordan's Bulls, the nucleus was still there.
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"Jordan was the better scorer"
Maybe, maybe not. We all remember Jordan's beastly plays from the latter half of his career when he hit his peak. A peak that LBJ is just starting to hit.

Jordan was even more exciting in the former half of his career.
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James is better passer, rebounder, defender, etc.. than Jordan. Jordan as a pure scorer certainly has a nasty killer instinct that James lacks, but that's not his game.

You sure about that? Jordan is the GOAT man-to-man defender to some basketball fans. ETA: Including help defense which is just as integral to the game as man defense, LeBron James is unreal...so I guess overall, it is a toss-up between MJ and LeBron.
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I think when all is said and done at the end of his career, James will knock him off from the top spot.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves brah.
This post was edited on 5/30/13 at 11:58 pm
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:59 pm to
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You sure about that? Jordan is the GOAT man-to-man defender to some basketball fans.


Jordan no doubt was a tenacious on ball defender, but I still think James has the edge. He can move like MJ and is much taller and thicker than MJ. He can defend positions 1-4 at an elite level and fill in as a defender at the 5 sporadically if need be.

And honestly, even if the Cavs retained every player except James, do you really think that team was making the playoffs? Do you think that the Cavs team James had is better than the Bulls team Jordan had? I would be so bold as to say not even close.

As for Shaq, once he made it to Cleveland, he was on the way out and wasn't the Shaq that we all knew at the beginning of his career.
This post was edited on 5/31/13 at 12:01 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:59 pm to
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So while MJ had the opportunity to mature at an elite college program for 3 years.....



are you saying LBJ didn't get to mature starting from day one in the NBA vs the best of the best
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 12:00 am to
That is just irritating to watch
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 12:02 am to
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are you saying LBJ didn't get to mature starting from day one in the NBA vs the best of the best


an 18 year old highschool kid playing against grown men as opposed to a seasoned college player, is a huge difference.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 12:07 am to
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an 18 year old highschool kid playing against grown men as opposed to a seasoned college player, is a huge difference.


if anything it accelerated his game to make him the beast he is

and kid lets be honest he was never physically a kid, mentally it may have taken him longer than others to mature but when it came to physical tools he was a grown arse man from day one
This post was edited on 5/31/13 at 12:15 am
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Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 6:06 pm to
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