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re: Jon Vilma on 2002 OSU
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:53 pm to Mithridates6
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:53 pm to Mithridates6
Ohio State has just as much speed as any team in the country year in and year out
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:57 pm to Mithridates6
I remember listening to the pre game on ESPN radio. Ron Franklin, Mike Gottfried, and Adrian Karsten were doing the game for radio. Karsten said he saw Ken Dorsey looking at the Ohio St defense going through warmups and shaking his head. He walked up to him and asked him why, and Dorsey said “man they’re a lot faster than I thought they were going to be.” So it sounds like Vilma is correct. Miami thought they would just waltz to another title against the slow white guys from the Big Ten.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:00 pm to DayDrinker
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Ohio State has just as much speed as any team in the country year in and year out
Now they do. Urban completely changed that program. He knew what it would take to beat the Bama’s of the world. So he started recruiting athletes to play all over the field.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:15 pm to caliegeaux
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just a bunch of dumb black guys.
had to kick it up a notch eh....couldn't have used slow?
If you have no problem with what Vilma said, but you have a problem with what diat said, then YOU (clap emoji) ARE (clap emoji) PART (clap emoji) OF (clap emoji) THE (clap emoji) PROBLEM (clap emoji)
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:21 pm to diat150
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Why is that?
Because the stereotype of black people being dumb was perpetuated well outside of and had an impact beyond a football field (Not getting into a modern day debate, just speaking on the history of). I'm not saying that Vilma's comments were ok but the two comments don't have the same gravitas.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:24 pm to Mr. Hangover
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If you have no problem with what Vilma said, but you have a problem with what diat said, then YOU (clap emoji) ARE (clap emoji) PART (clap emoji) OF (clap emoji) THE (clap emoji) PROBLEM (clap emoji)
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:24 pm to rockiee
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:26 pm to WestCoastAg
Cringe winner of the day?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:28 pm to rockiee
Leading MSB candidate
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:33 pm to rockiee
Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen that shite on bookface in the past two days
Posted on 5/29/20 at 5:37 pm to boston vol
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Now they do. Urban completely changed that program. He knew what it would take to beat the Bama’s of the world. So he started recruiting athletes to play all over the field.
Tressel’s teams had plenty of speed. The biggest flaw with Tressel’s teams is he recruited huge o-lineman that couldn’t move very well.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 5:47 pm to KillerNut9
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Tressel’s teams had plenty of speed.
The skill positions on that particular team weren't that athletic though. Clarett was a bowling ball, Jenkins more big possession guy, and Gamble was the athlete. Compared to what Miami was practicing against everyday OSU was a typical slow Big 10 team.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 5:57 pm to Mithridates6
What if Craig Krenzel would have said, "Oh Miami, a bunch of fast black guys. I mean they have Doresy too but"..
Posted on 5/29/20 at 6:01 pm to saintsfan22
Cooper recruited some serious speed and overall talent compared to Tressel. In the 90s, Tennessee was the only SEC team with nearly as many players drafted as OSU or Michigan
Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:07 pm to DayDrinker
Players consider any team with 3 or more white players a white team that lacks speed. General rule
Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:43 pm to luckylefty
To be fair, 50% of our secondary was white.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:50 pm to KosmoCramer
Wait, wasn’t Dustin Fox and his 98 speed on NCAA football on that team?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 9:19 pm to hugo_boss
Ah ok. So it’s only ok to perpetuate the stereotypes you agree with.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 10:11 pm to diat150
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Ah ok. So it’s only ok to perpetuate the stereotypes you agree with.
I can't imagine you read what I typed and got that from it so I'm going to assume you're being intentionally obtuse. I literally said
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I'm not saying that Vilma's comments were ok but the two comments don't have the same gravitas.
My argument was that while both can be deemed inappropriate one would be fair to be seen as a different level from the other.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 10:16 pm to hugo_boss
If you are a football player would you rather be dumb and fast or smart and slow?
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