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re: Jon Jones popped hot,stripped of belt
Posted on 8/23/17 at 6:20 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 8/23/17 at 6:20 pm to lsupride87
quote:Popped for coke one month before the fight. Then passed all subsequent drug tests for the first DC fight. But you insist that he wasn't clean.
Calling that a stretch is hilarious
Ok.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 6:21 pm
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 6:22 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Dude he has failed multiple times for Peds 
And you are the one saying it is a stretch to think he hs always been a cheat
And you are the one saying it is a stretch to think he hs always been a cheat Posted on 8/23/17 at 6:26 pm to lsupride87
It's a fact that he was clean for the first DC fight. If you have something to disprove that, link it, brother.
Gonna need something more than "well he was popped for PEDs later so that means he was juicing for the first fight too!"
I'll sign off on that. Good luck with your search.
Gonna need something more than "well he was popped for PEDs later so that means he was juicing for the first fight too!"
I'll sign off on that. Good luck with your search.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 6:28 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
So you think Jones just randomly decided in 2016 that it was time to start roiding up? He decided as he was in his prime? That makes less sense to me. The dude has done nothing for me to give him an ounce of the benefit of doubt
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 8/23/17 at 6:34 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
yeah he passed his drug test for the first fight, doesnt neccessarily mean he didnt use, but that can't be proven back then. i think its possible he started using after the first fight with dc.
i think jon is a piece of crap, but hes talented and he won fair and square. it isnt like he eye poked or kicked cormier in the nuts and then finished him.
id rather there not be any drug testing personally. ill gladly watch a juiced to gills jones fight a juiced up lesnar.
but that hit and run incident has just left a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to jon jones. so did the quinton jackson incident when he went nuts after not sleeping for 3-4 days or whatever the hell that was.
i think jon is a piece of crap, but hes talented and he won fair and square. it isnt like he eye poked or kicked cormier in the nuts and then finished him.
id rather there not be any drug testing personally. ill gladly watch a juiced to gills jones fight a juiced up lesnar.
but that hit and run incident has just left a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to jon jones. so did the quinton jackson incident when he went nuts after not sleeping for 3-4 days or whatever the hell that was.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 6:40 pm to lsucoonass
He didn't piss hot so I'm going to assume he was clean for the first one.
I've never liked Jon Jones. He's literally only fighter that pisses me off IRL. I can't stand him. I had to mute the fight promos. But he's a great fighter. Possibly the best we've ever seen. Not my favorite by a long shot, but one of the best.
ETA: What baffles me with the steroid stuff is that his game isn't dependent on raw power. He isn't a KO artist or a bullrush wrestler. I think you nailed it earlier with the mental side of it. He thinks he needs that edge.
ETA2: If this failed test wasn't a mistake and he gets hit with a lengthy suspension, I hope he says "frick it" and goes to fight in Japan or Russia.
I've never liked Jon Jones. He's literally only fighter that pisses me off IRL. I can't stand him. I had to mute the fight promos. But he's a great fighter. Possibly the best we've ever seen. Not my favorite by a long shot, but one of the best.
ETA: What baffles me with the steroid stuff is that his game isn't dependent on raw power. He isn't a KO artist or a bullrush wrestler. I think you nailed it earlier with the mental side of it. He thinks he needs that edge.
ETA2: If this failed test wasn't a mistake and he gets hit with a lengthy suspension, I hope he says "frick it" and goes to fight in Japan or Russia.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 8/23/17 at 6:55 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
for a guy that should be confident and on top of the world he seems insecure.
i think he needed a mental reassurance, hes a freak athlete but like you said he doesnt have that raw power. roids can make you feel confident once you see and feel the results from them.
all i know is if he were tested after weigh ins and failed for this drug, then hes a dummy. there are faster acting oral anabolics like d-bol that get out of your system faster.
but damn hes a hell of a fighter. nothing else needs to be said
i think he needed a mental reassurance, hes a freak athlete but like you said he doesnt have that raw power. roids can make you feel confident once you see and feel the results from them.
all i know is if he were tested after weigh ins and failed for this drug, then hes a dummy.
there are faster acting oral anabolics like d-bol that get out of your system faster. but damn hes a hell of a fighter. nothing else needs to be said
Posted on 8/23/17 at 6:56 pm to lsucoonass
Posted on 8/23/17 at 7:05 pm to Fus0623
quote:
So disappointing. Dude was the reason I starting following UFC.
wow. you sure missed alot of good UFC in the old days.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 7:16 pm to Carson123987
well they do need a running back
Posted on 8/23/17 at 7:18 pm to lsucoonass
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:49 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
frick outta here with the steroids=power bullshite. You are talking about these substances as if you ingest them and bloat into a massive or strong athlete because of the steroids. It's all dependent on the training. It's not simply an attempt to gain KO power.
These discussions always break down into "He doesnt KO people so he can't be on roids!" Discussion.
There are so many uses for them. They don't automatically increase mass or power. That depends on how you train. They can aid significantly in weight cutting, training recovery and speed.
Do you think Rafael Palmero took roids only for power? No! It's to play ball at an advanced age even though physically you wouldn't be able to keep up without it because of injuries and hormone deficiencies.
Enough with the eye test of mass and steroids for power junk.
These discussions always break down into "He doesnt KO people so he can't be on roids!" Discussion.
There are so many uses for them. They don't automatically increase mass or power. That depends on how you train. They can aid significantly in weight cutting, training recovery and speed.
Do you think Rafael Palmero took roids only for power? No! It's to play ball at an advanced age even though physically you wouldn't be able to keep up without it because of injuries and hormone deficiencies.
Enough with the eye test of mass and steroids for power junk.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 10:29 pm to CajunsTigersSaints
DC has to be thinking he doesn't deserve the belt.
Roids or not, that's boy's gotten his arse beat by Jones over and over again.
Classic paper champion and he knows it.
Roids or not, that's boy's gotten his arse beat by Jones over and over again.
Classic paper champion and he knows it.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 11:11 pm to theunknownknight
If he's anything like Mark Hunt nowadays, he thinks the opposite.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 11:25 pm to TigerNutts
quote:Nah I'm good where I'm at.
frick outta here with the steroids=power bullshite.
frick off.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 11:37 pm to theunknownknight
quote:what? He's annihilated the division including the true goat Silva.
Classic paper champion and he knows it.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 2:01 am to Byron Bojangles III
Let's not forget that Jones had suspiciously low testosterone levels for his 1st fight with D.C.
I'm not a jones hater but there's no way someone "accidentally" or "mistakenly" gets hit with drug testing results three different times indicating possible cheating
At this point I'm convinced he's a career cheater and to me his legacy is tainted (just like his dick pills... supposedly)
I'm not a jones hater but there's no way someone "accidentally" or "mistakenly" gets hit with drug testing results three different times indicating possible cheating
At this point I'm convinced he's a career cheater and to me his legacy is tainted (just like his dick pills... supposedly)
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 2:18 am
Posted on 8/24/17 at 3:13 am to beastieboys
quote:
Just let them all juice. No one believes Cormier is better than Jones.
I'd be fine with that, but until that happens, if you get popped then you cheated.
I agree JJ didn't need it, but he did it.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 3:17 am to TigerNutts
quote:
frick outta here with the steroids=power bullshite.
Actually, you should kindly shut the funk up. Steroids aren't gonna add significant power? Ayfkm? You're making that claim with a straight face?
Posted on 8/24/17 at 3:21 am to lsupride87
quote:
Circa 1990 my dad used to go to the video store (RIP) and bring home the videos and we would watch it on vcr. Dad was too cheap for Pay per view
I remember watching UFC 2 live on PPV. Everyone that i watched after that was a rental from a video store. Me and two friends from HS watched Keith Hacckney v. Joe Son in the back of his van on the way to a wake forest basketball game (his dad was a grad). I bet we rewound, the dick punching part 30 times.
LINK
It would be easier to feel sorry for Joe Son if he wasn't a legitimately awful human being.
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