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re: John Hartwell resigns as ULM AD

Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53553 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:29 pm to
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I'll admit I'm out of the loop on G5 drama, but what on earth could a JMU beat writer have against ULM athletics?


JMU thinks they’re driving the SBC forward and that ULM is a drag on it
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3052 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:30 pm to
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They should have never moved up. In all honestly neither should tech nor Lafayette


The Cajuns have never “moved up”, we’ve always been 1A/FBS.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 10:13 pm to
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The Cajuns have never “moved up”, we’ve always been 1A/FBS


Nope
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27318 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 10:48 pm to
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It’s even going to be worse now with nil.


Well yeah….ULM was a bunch of dumbasses for joining the Belt in 2000 because they knew they would never be able to compete with NIL in 2025.

Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38115 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:13 pm to
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JMU thinks they’re driving the SBC forward and that ULM is a drag on it
these east universities we let in are gonna be the death of the sunbelt. It starts with ULM and it’ll be everyone west of Georgia by the end of it.
Posted by WeareLATech
Member since Sep 2021
514 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:47 pm to
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To be fair spending anything is probably spending money we don’t have


Starts with people saying "I'll cheer for ULM when they are good". I've heard that from countless alumni. Guess what ULM has been good and those people. Crickets.
Posted by WeareLATech
Member since Sep 2021
514 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:51 pm to
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implement a fee without a student vote.


Hello, I really wonder what the hell is holding up Dr. Jim from getting vocal about this.

Does he not have many friends from his time as the head of the UL system?
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11157 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:26 am to
Yes. The Southland was a D1A conference from 1978-1982 following the D1A/D1AA split in 1978. In 1982 the conference moved down and the Cajuns became a D1A Independent. This is the same year NLU moved up to D1AA from D2 to replace the Cajuns in the Southland.
Posted by WeareLATech
Member since Sep 2021
514 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:29 am to
This is the reason I absolutely hate LSU.

Let's Goooooooo Clemson.
Posted by WeareLATech
Member since Sep 2021
514 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:33 am to
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Yes. The Southland was a D1A conference from 1978-1982 following the D1A/D1AA split in 1978. In 1982 the conference moved down and the Cajuns became a D1A Independent. This is the same year NLU moved up to D1AA from D2 to replace the Cajuns in the Southland.


Tech came in 88. ULL needs to stop trying to be Like LSU. Carve your own thing. Actually give a crap about ULM.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53553 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:39 am to
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Guess what ULM has been good and those people
1 bowl appearance in 30 years…
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
10531 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:44 am to
What were they before 78?
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11157 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:58 am to
They were a D1 Independent until 1977 and prior to that were in the NCAA College Division.

I am not a Cajun fan and don't like a lot of the things they do as they come across as slimy and disingenuous. That said they did not 'move up' to D1A/FBS they were there since that division was created and are listed as a Charter member of the D1A/FBS division. La Tech and Mcneese were charter members as well, but both went down to D1AA when the Southland went down. La Tech came back up in 1988, and Mcneese stayed in D1AA/FCS.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
10531 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:00 am to
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They were a D1 Independent until 1977 and prior to that were in the NCAA College Division.


So they weren’t always 1-A/FBS. Thanks for making my point
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11157 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:12 am to
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So they weren’t always 1-A/FBS. Thanks for making my point
The designation did not exist until 1978, which means they have been a D1A/FBS member since that designation existed.

I did not 'prove your point', you were wrong and instead of saying 'I didn't realize that the Southland used to be a D1A conference' you chose to argue despite being wrong.

You learned something new today, it's ok to learn something new. It's also ok to say 'I did not realize that', it's a much better look than moving goalposts and arguing semantics.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
10531 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:14 am to
They played in a lower tier prior to 1978. Don’t know what to tell you. You ull fans are all insufferable douches

What did they play from 63-72? 74?
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 8:20 am
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13644 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:25 am to
Maybe they should move to Atlanta
Posted by buckdeer85
St. Francisville
Member since Aug 2021
67 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:40 am to
I don’t agree with what you are saying. When ULM had short stints of “goodness”, fans were there.

I was there many games during our 2012-2014 era which is our best era since moving up to FBS. Even though it wasn’t amazing. The fans supported.

I just crunched the numbers. After we upset Ark in 2012 & lost to Auburn in OT the fans set record for most attendees in a game when Baylor came. So the team started 1-1 & we came. 31,175 there. More than Tech has ever had.

2012:19,359 average home. Finished 8-5
2013:17,035 average home. Finished 6-6
2014:18,108 average home. Finished 4-8

Not great numbers but good enough. Definitely good enough to not blame fans for “not showing up” to support the team to victory. At some point the team has to sustain success to keep the fans attention.



Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27318 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:42 am to
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I am not a Cajun fan and don't like a lot of the things they do as they come across as slimy and disingenuous


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You ull fans are all insufferable douches


I guess reading just isn’t a thing for you.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7661 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:54 am to
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Cajuns, LA Tech and ULM all gotta figure something out fast, t


These mid-major schools are getting squeezed out with the quickness.
Number 1 is they don’t have a large loyal fan base to support them.
Number 2 is with the Power 5 conferences expanding, these schools will have to play additional conference opponents, leaving out the mid-major schools rent-a-win money they have counted on.
Finally, the bowl scene can’t keep up the current pace. With the playoff system expanding, the non- playoff Power 5 teams will start taking the bowl spots they may not have been offered previously. Let’s face it…the bowls just won’t have a large appeal anymore and they may just start going away.
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