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re: Joe Paterno will retire at the end of the season per AP
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:55 pm to Philosoraptor
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:55 pm to Philosoraptor
quote:They won't because this isn't an NCAA issue. It is much bigger than that and only involves athletics in a small, indirect way.
And I really hope they get the death penalty somehow. But of course they won't because of the "prestige" and history.
Once and if the BOT cuts out the cancer, the school and athletics should be allowed to move forward and recover as best as they are able.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 1:57 pm
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Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:55 pm to GEAUXT
quote:
if a scandal this big doesn't call for the death penalty i don't see what else could
If it gets more involved and undeniable evidence of a true scandal and cover up is revealed, then you would think the NCAA would have to get involved in some way. Not to mention possible legal action.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:57 pm to WDE24
quote:
They won't because this isn't an NCAA issue. It is much bigger than that and only involves athletics in a small, indirect way.
At this point I agree, but if more things come out, I don't know what will happen.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:57 pm to WDE24
these people calling for the death penalty for the program are entirely missing the point. this is not about football on the field.
Its the failure of supposed leaders to do the RIGHT THING at the expense of children's lives.
Its the failure of supposed leaders to do the RIGHT THING at the expense of children's lives.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:57 pm to NATidefan
obviously there are MUCH more important things at play here than some stupid sport, but i def think the death penalty is in order
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:59 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:
Its the failure of supposed leaders to do the RIGHT THING at the expense of children's lives.
and why did they take this cavalier attitude about it......
because of the football team/ joe pa's image.
death penalty.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:00 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:
these people calling for the death penalty for the program are entirely missing the point. this is not about football on the field.
Its the failure of supposed leaders to do the RIGHT THING at the expense of children's lives.
Exactly. Everybody who's associated with this won't be associated with Penn St. much longer so any NCAA sanctions against the school is punishing the wrong people.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:00 pm to NATidefan
quote:
In '98, the guy had already been there over 20 years with his youth program going, I bet someone saw something before 1998.
I am hoping they do some serious investigation into this...the Pedophile started his foundation in 1977. No way he went undetected for 20 years...they had to have a suspicion.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:01 pm to CptBengal
quote:
and why did they take this cavalier attitude about it......
because of the football team/ joe pa's image.
death penalty.
I think that could possibly be the reason the NCAA gets involved. If at some point undeniable evidence comes out that they covered this up to protect the "program" then I could see the NCAA getting involved.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:01 pm to CptBengal
I think the proper punishment is to get rid of everyone who had any knowledge of htis stuff and didn't act---Coaches, assistant coaches, administrators, presidents, law enforcement, whomever conspired to keep it quiet. Prosecute them if applicable under the law and fire them right away.
There are still many great men at PSU that had no knowledge of this stuff and no involvement.
There are still many great men at PSU that had no knowledge of this stuff and no involvement.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:01 pm to NATidefan
quote:
If it gets more involved and undeniable evidence of a true scandal and cover up is revealed, then you would think the NCAA would have to get involved in some way. Not to mention possible legal action.
Emmert's stance, in an interview aired on the SVP show, says that the NCAA will take a backseat on this until the legal system is done.
Once that's over, they'll see if there's any action the NCAA needs to take.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:02 pm to songofthesword
Here is a very weird question but just wondering in case anyone has studied or been involved in a molestation case:
Is Jerry Sandusky gay?
In cases like this where an older male abuses a young boy, do they generally also live a double life behind the scenes?
Is Jerry Sandusky gay?
In cases like this where an older male abuses a young boy, do they generally also live a double life behind the scenes?
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:02 pm to NATidefan
i actually don't agree with the death penalty because case the kids did absolutely nothing wrong
but i do think that kids that want to leave, should be able to leave asap
but i do think that kids that want to leave, should be able to leave asap
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:02 pm to LfcSU3520
when you have sex with boys and you are a male, i pretty much assume you are gay.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:03 pm to teke184
quote:
Emmert's stance, in an interview aired on the SVP show, says that the NCAA will take a backseat on this until the legal system is done.
Once that's over, they'll see if there's any action the NCAA needs to take.
I believe that is the correct way to go about it.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:04 pm to LfcSU3520
quote:
In cases like this where an older male abuses a young boy, do they generally also live a double life behind the scenes?
odds are he was abused himself as a boy
i don't know about the "gay" stuff
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:04 pm to songofthesword
schools don't get the death penalty just because the kids did something wrong, but because the adults there facilitated it and created a culture that accepted it.
So in this case it's just something infinitely more heinous, but without any player involvement. I don't know how this would be looked at in the eyes of the NCAA
So in this case it's just something infinitely more heinous, but without any player involvement. I don't know how this would be looked at in the eyes of the NCAA
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:04 pm to teke184
quote:Exactly what he should do. Imposing NCAA violation for the sake of taking a pound of flesh won't punish anyone who was involved and, because this doesn't directly involve athletics, just wouldn't be appropriate. That all changes if some of those involved are left in place, but I don't see that happening.
Emmert's stance, in an interview aired on the SVP show, says that the NCAA will take a backseat on this until the legal system is done.
Once that's over, they'll see if there's any action the NCAA needs to take.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:04 pm to LfcSU3520
Don't know anything about Sandusky and adult partners.
All I can say is that Sandusky is/was married, has six children who were all adopted, and all the reported victims so far are boys and not girls.
All I can say is that Sandusky is/was married, has six children who were all adopted, and all the reported victims so far are boys and not girls.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:05 pm to LfcSU3520
I think he had a clear preference for young boys. I would think someone who is guay would go for grown men. who knows he may have as well, but I'm sure it was more of a control/power trip to do this stuff to people who couldn't fight back and whom he could groom.
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