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re: Jim Tressel has resigned from Ohio State
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:25 pm to SprintFun
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:25 pm to SprintFun
How does this compare to USC? I think that involved improper payments to one player and his family for a house and car.
This involved many players getting improper benefits from a tatoo parlor and a car dealership and a head coach covering it up.
I think it could be worse for tOSU.
This involved many players getting improper benefits from a tatoo parlor and a car dealership and a head coach covering it up.
I think it could be worse for tOSU.
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Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:27 pm to SprintFun
I haven't read this whole thread so forgive me if this has been covered but...
Musburger is saying on ESPN that all of tOSU's wins from the past season, including the Sugar Bowl, will probably be vacated bc they used ineligible players. Why would the Sugar Bowl win be vacated? Correct me if I'm wrong but hadn't the players been ruled eligible for the Sugar Bowl as long as they served their 5 game suspension at the start of this season?
Musburger is saying on ESPN that all of tOSU's wins from the past season, including the Sugar Bowl, will probably be vacated bc they used ineligible players. Why would the Sugar Bowl win be vacated? Correct me if I'm wrong but hadn't the players been ruled eligible for the Sugar Bowl as long as they served their 5 game suspension at the start of this season?
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:28 pm to ericberryistheman
quote:
How does this compare to USC? I think that involved improper payments to one player and his family for a house and car.
This involved many players getting improper benefits from a tatoo parlor and a car dealership and a head coach covering it up.
I think it could be worse for tOSU.
I really don't think so. USC purposefully hindered the NCAA investigation into everything which is why they got hit so hard. OSU by all accounts has been fully forthright with everything and the person who caused it all has resigned. It will be a bowl ban and scholarship reduction I think, but people who want the death penalty will be pretty disappointed.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:29 pm to ericberryistheman
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How does this compare to USC? I think that involved improper payments to one player and his family for a house and car.
This involved many players getting improper benefits from a tatoo parlor and a car dealership and a head coach covering it up.
I think it could be worse for tOSU.
The issue here isn't what was covered up, it's who knew about it. If it was just Tress, then they could have had a ring of drug dealers on the team, it'd probably be probation. If the car stuff and all that is true, and people like Gee and Smith knew about it (or they hindered the investigation to try to keep Tress safe), that's where OSU will be screwed.
This post was edited on 5/30/11 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:30 pm to Mac
quote:
Musburger is saying on ESPN that all of tOSU's wins from the past season, including the Sugar Bowl, will probably be vacated bc they used ineligible players. Why would the Sugar Bowl win be vacated? Correct me if I'm wrong but hadn't the players been ruled eligible for the Sugar Bowl as long as they served their 5 game suspension at the start of this season?
Yes - OSU ruled them ineligible and the NCAA stepped in and ruled them eligible. I really don't see how then can take that game away. The rest of 2010 and probably 2009 are gone though I'd think. Maybe 2008 too? IDK.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:31 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
OSU should throwout the entire coaching staff and NCAA compliance office, because they were all involved.
This post was edited on 5/30/11 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:34 pm to Michael J
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OSU should throwout the entire coaching staff and NCAA compliance office, because they were all involved.
No, they weren't.
All of their email history has been scoured and nobody but Tressel knew.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:35 pm to SprintFun
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All of their email history has been scoured and nobody but Tressel knew.
REALLY?????????
If you believe this you are just dumb.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:37 pm to dukke v
i'm reading through the whole thread, but wondering...
this SI.com article comes out in the next 24 hours. apparently, it was yet another bombshell and prompted Tosu to go ahead and make a move.
any ideas what it will reveal?
this SI.com article comes out in the next 24 hours. apparently, it was yet another bombshell and prompted Tosu to go ahead and make a move.
any ideas what it will reveal?
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:38 pm to dukke v
So all of the OSU legal and IT departments are in on it too?
And the plot thickens!
And the plot thickens!
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:38 pm to Michael J
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OSU should throwout the entire coaching staff and NCAA compliance office, because they were all involved.
Yeah, because there's clear proof of that. What a dumbass statement to make.
You too Peej. Show the wiseness of your years once in a while.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:39 pm to dukke v
quote:
REALLY?????????
If you believe this you are just dumb.
lol, yeah cause no one knows what the other guys in the office are doing lol. I'm with you PJ.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:40 pm to SprintFun
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Yes - OSU ruled them ineligible and the NCAA stepped in and ruled them eligible. I really don't see how then can take that game away. The rest of 2010 and probably 2009 are gone though I'd think. Maybe 2008 too? IDK.
At the time the NCAA didn't know there was a cover-up going on though.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:43 pm to Mac
quote:
Musburger is saying on ESPN that all of tOSU's wins from the past season, including the Sugar Bowl, will probably be vacated bc they used ineligible players. Why would the Sugar Bowl win be vacated? Correct me if I'm wrong but hadn't the players been ruled eligible for the Sugar Bowl as long as they served their 5 game suspension at the start of this season?
they had been ruled eligible. however, since they were ineligible for the entire year, they shouldn't be rewarded with the win since the players shouldn't have played during the year.
Since the players were basically ineligible for the entire year, they shouldn't have gotten to the Sugar Bowl and hence the reinstatement should not matter at all.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:46 pm to bbrownso
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Since the players were basically ineligible for the entire year, they shouldn't have gotten to the Sugar Bowl and hence the reinstatement should not matter at all.
Wooohooo, still haven't beaten the SEC in a BCS bowl
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:47 pm to VABuckeye
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You too Peej. Show the wiseness of your years once in a while
Don't tell me for one minute that others didn't know. Come on VA. I respect ya as a poster, BUT this is SOME SERIOUS LYING AND CHEATING going on, even more than we know as of now. THINK ABOUT IT.TRESSEL quiting is just the tip of the iceberg.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:51 pm to SprintFun
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So all of the OSU legal and IT departments are in on it too?
And the plot thickens!
Yeah, it's not really hard to find something through an IT audit during an investigation. The only way that someone else was told without being able to find proof would be a face to face conversation. Any hints of communication about this scandal through a computer and IT gurus can sift through and find that kind of stuff pretty easily.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:52 pm to dukke v
**scans thread for finallyfastohio..
Damn. Oh well
HIO
Damn. Oh well
HIO 
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:54 pm to dukke v
What about the phone records the car dealer has with the compliance guy
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:06 pm to King
Spielman's call-in reaction on ESPN.com is awesome. I agree with him 100%. I have always loved Spiels.
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