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Jim Harbaugh: How come a 16+ team playoff works for other sports but not Division 1-A CFB?

Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:21 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:21 pm
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The first College Football Playoff Top 25 poll was released Tuesday, and Michigan was nowhere to be found.

But that won't stop Jim Harbaugh from talking about the four-team playoff. Chalk him up as one who wants to see it expand to 16, a format already used in the Football Championship Subdivision.

"They've got a great system," Harbaugh said Wednesday morning on "Jamie and Stoney" on 97.1 The Ticket. "It's been in place for many years. My dad (Jack) won the national championship at Western Kentucky, when they were I-AA in 2002.

"I think that is the best system. When you look at every other sport, they have a playoff."

"And it's not a four-team system," Harbaugh said. "Basketball goes from 64, I think, (note: it's 68) to the Final Four. I think that's the way it should be done to crown a national champion.

"Like they do in gymnastics. Like they do in basketball -- men's and women's. Lacrosse. Every other sport you can think of."

If 16 teams is too big a leap, Harbaugh says, then he'd be fine with expanding to 12. He's well-versed in the arguments against it, too, and realizes a playoff format of that magnitude could mean two teams playing as many as 16 games in a season.

His answer for that?

"An 11-game season," Harbaugh said.

"Some of these conferences that are 14 and 16 teams, you win your conference and only one team goes?," Harbaugh said. "One team may not have played the other good teams in the conference. We see that already in the Big Ten. Strength of schedule is a big determination of what your record is going to be.

"It doesn't have to be just one team from each conference. You could have 16 teams. They vote them in in the FCS. I think you could do that in the (FBS) as well."


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This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 7:23 pm
Posted by paladine36
Member since Feb 2013
1478 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:23 pm to
No frick you all.
Bracket playoffs are shite.
DO NOT CHANGE College football anymore than yall have already.
frick your shite teams that cannot make it into a 4 team playoff.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:23 pm to
He is just chawing trying to stay in the news since his teams and coaching is irrelevant.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:25 pm to
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Like they do in gymnastics. 



Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:25 pm to
Asperger's is a hell of a thing
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:26 pm to
He wouldn’t be saying this shite if his team was undefeated.

The best part about college football is that every game matters. You wanna win a championship? Don’t lose two fricking games before November.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12718 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:26 pm to
That would be all fine and dandy, except the FCS system sucks for the most part. I like the playoff, but they try this "regionalization" bullshite, so you don't the best matchups or even the matchups that you should get if teams were just seeded 1-24.

Yeah, that's right, Jimmy boy doesn't even know how to count. There are 24 teams in the FCS playoffs. Top 8 have a bye.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:28 pm to
Completely disagree with going that high. 8 is the absolute max with 5 conference champs and 3 at larges.

I think 6 with 5 conference champs and one at large is perfect. Top two get byes. You already have 6 rotating venues, 5 now actually get used every year.

I absolutely hate the committee and the subjective bias of its members. Winning games gets overlooked by "best team bias".
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:30 pm to
All those other sports do it wrong... Nobody gives a damn who wins the big conferences in basketball, baseball, etc. Its all about a few weekends at the end of the season.
Posted by alajones
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:31 pm to
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No frick you all. Bracket playoffs are shite. DO NOT CHANGE College football anymore than yall have already. frick your shite teams that cannot make it into a 4 team playoff.


+ 100000000

There’s a reason no one gives two shits about the regular seasons of any of those sports like NBA, NCAA MBB, and FCS football for that matter.
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:33 pm to
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And it's not a four-team system," Harbaugh said. "Basketball goes from 64, I think, (note: it's 68) to the Final Four. I think that's the way it should be done to crown a national champion


March Madness is the worst way to crown a national champion
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:37 pm to
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He is just chawing trying to stay in the news since his teams and coaching is irrelevant.



Yep. Even when it's not about Michigan, the media find a way to make it about Michigan.
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:38 pm to
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The best part about college football is that every game matters. You wanna win a championship? Don’t lose two fricking games before November.


A thousand times this
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:38 pm to
backwards offense
backwards thinking

classic jim harbaugh
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:40 pm to
It would be impossible.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
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28069 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:01 pm to
He's so desperate to condone his failures.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:09 pm to
This is what I wish they would do. First, so away with the committee, and go solely to computer models. Then take all of the various models (FPI, S&P+, FEI, Sagarin, Massey, etc.), and find the most accurate collection of models based on their parameters (score margin, possession efficiency, win probabilities), find the optimal weightings of each in a training sample then see how it performs on validation sample and then refine until the most accurate explanatory and predictive weighting is identified. In addition to a composite rating, identify the standard error of each’s composite.

Expand to 8 teams, with at least 3 at-large bids using the composite score. In addition; the 5 P5 conference champions are automatic bids IF using those standard errors, their composite rating is not statistically (say 0.05) lower than the team ranked 8th.

So I think conference champions should get some preference, but they have to have a composite that reflects that their not significantly worse than the top 8. This was a 8-5 conference champ from a weak division isn’t given an auto bid if the resume doesn’t warrant it.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35542 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:14 pm to
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"And it's not a four-team system," Harbaugh said. "Basketball goes from 64


But basically has just sold out to make money on this crazy tournament because it's the only time they make money.

Hell Boeheim wants the tournament to include EVERY team.

1975–1978: 32 teams - perfect format for basketball becuase it accounts for all conference champs and a good amount of at-larges...but not this crap where the #9 team in the ACC gets in. Basketball has so many programs...you have to have at least 32.

16 would basically just be Conference Champs.

I love for CFB to be the Top 10 because rarely is the Top 10 disagreed upon. Top 2 teams get a bye...Once you get into the teens - that's just Cinderella story. Sure they could win but you're getting into March Madness territory.

Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90541 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:20 pm to
Get paid 9 million to be in top 4
Not in top 4
We need 16 teams!!!!!
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:21 pm to
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The best part about college football is that ALMOST every game matters.
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