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re: Jason Whitlock is going nuclear on Flores situation, says sinister plot behind lawsuit

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Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:08 am to
Why do you think that’s a counter argument?

Again, the point isn’t that these
Guy shouldn’t be hired, it’s that Leftwich should also be hired. Maybe he is going to go 42-12.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:11 am to
What else did you expect in this thread?

It’s not even a highjacked thread this is the point.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30112 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:13 am to
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How much longer are y’all going to go back and forth? lol



I just hopped in this one, I’m good for a bit
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30112 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:15 am to
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Why do you think that’s a counter argument?

Again, the point isn’t that these
Guy shouldn’t be hired, it’s that Leftwich should also be hired.


It’s more than what you see on paper. You keep saying who should and shouldn’t be given a chance. What credentials do you have?

So…why should LaFleur have not been hired? Honest question.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17581 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:22 am to
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The proof is that Bienemy doesn’t have a job. Do you think there’s a large group of owners that would rather hire a white guy and potentially lose big than hire a black guy that they think is the best qualified candidate?


That's not proof. That's speculation. We don't know why owners make the hiring decisions they make. It's clear they don't think he is the most qualified. Does him being black play a part. We don't know one way or another. Because we aren't in those offices.

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No, he’s playing the reality card. It’s the same as when certain crime stats about certain demographics are posted. You can cry racism if you’d like, but the numbers are facts

There were no crime statistics posted, buddy. So that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38448 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:23 am to
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SammyTiger


I cannot believe you can sit here and claim people are making decision that greatly affect their billion-dollar organization solely on skin color. Money doesn't see color. These guys would hire anyone who they think can make their team win and earn more money.

To say anything else is absolutely idiotic.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 12:23 am
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30112 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:28 am to
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We don't know why owners make the hiring decisions they make. It's clear they don't think he is the most qualified. Does him being black play a part. We don't know one way or another. Because we aren't in those offices.


Of course.

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There were no crime statistics posted, buddy. So that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.


It was an analogy
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79428 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:34 am to
Do they not make money when they lose?

Pretty sure the bad teams still make gov of fricking money.

Also, if you’re racist you might actually believe being blacks makes those candidates less capable.

Realistically, I think These owners get tunnel vision on a guy and do whatever it takes to get them. The whole point of the Rooney rule is to get them out of that tunnel to look at black candidates who for SOME reason often get overlooked.

It’s a rule that’s just been largely ignored and the results speak for themselves.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:36 am to
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I cannot believe you can sit here and claim people are making decision that greatly affect their billion-dollar organization solely on skin color. Money doesn't see color. These guys would hire anyone who they think can make their team win and earn more money. To say anything else is absolutely idiotic.

Sammy is an unabashed racist that supports critical race theory and thinks all black people learn the same as simply because they are black. Nothing that you just said should surprise you about him.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:37 am to
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Flores is a useful idiot.


There's a lot of Dim useful idiots, I'm guessing a lot of them showed up in this thread, I will read on and see
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79428 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:42 am to
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Sammy is an unabashed racist that supports critical race theory and thinks all black people learn the same as simply because they are black. Nothing that you just said should surprise you about him.


Do you wanna share your totally not racist take on this?
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30112 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:46 am to
Again, what credentials do you have to decide who should and shouldn’t get hired?

As to your reference to LaFleur: why was he not deserving of a job?

And the Rooney rule is frequently ignored? Do you have data that supports this?
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:46 am to
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They're going to try to make the Broncos get sold to a black owner. This is what this is all about. It's sinister. That lawsuit is a joke. It reads like a Twitter post from a left wing lunatic.


I'm gonna enjoy the hell out of the Dims destroying this like they destroy everything else, the NFL deserves it
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:46 am to
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Do you wanna share your totally not racist take on this?

My totally not racist take is that people making decisions with millions of dollars at stake don’t make decisions based on race. They make decisions based on how to maximize those millions of dollars.

You make decisions based on race. Because you’re an unabashed racist that supports critical race theory and thinks all black people learn the same simply because they are black. Do you wanna attempt to refute any of that, “lawyer”?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79428 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:49 am to
Unless you think NFL owners and GM are infallible the “what makes you qualified to criticize them” argument is bullshite. What makes you qualified to approve of them? We’re two schmucks arguing on the internet. I’m just saying if your hiring a HC you probably fricked up the last time.

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So…why should LaFleur have not been hired? Honest question.


STILL not the point. My point is guys like LaFleur get the oppertunity. On paper the difference between LaFleur and Leftwich isn’t that great.

Kevin O’Connell just got the HC job with the Viking. His career started in 2015. His only real success was with McVey.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:52 am to
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thats gonna leave a mark


Like this racist motherfricker I used to work with that hated every white man, I told him once that the reason things are they way they are is because 70% of black children grow up without a father. He spun the frick up on that one and he actually raised his kid, that's how brainwashed Dims are



Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:54 am to
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josh336



Congratulations, your Dim arse handed yourself your arse

That's pretty fricking impressive
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:56 am to
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Originally when he posted, it looked like his opinion. So i thought he needed a break. Now that he edited, clearly its not his take. My bad…..i guess


You're a stupid motherfricker, all day, every day
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30112 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:01 am to
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Unless you think NFL owners and GM are infallible the “what makes you qualified to criticize them” argument is bullshite. What makes you qualified to approve of them?


This is a nice deflect. Didn’t you call out a poster earlier for this nonsense?

What do you do for a living? GMs and owners are not infallible, but they have access to information and sources that we do not. They can dig much deeper into anybody’s background than a Google search can. They work several hours a day researching, scouting, networking, etc. The absolute worst GMs know much more about a candidate than you or I do.

In a nutshell, I don’t think anybody on here is qualified enough to start dissecting the hires of organizations that are generally successful, as you have with the Packers. That’s why I singled this one out.

GMs and coaches are tied to the hip. If you screw up one hire, you probably get a second chance. You have two or three major blunders, you are probably out…unless you are owner/GM.

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STILL not the point. My point is guys like LaFleur get the oppertunity.


What is a guy ‘like LaFleur’? A white guy? A successful assistant?

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On paper the difference between LaFleur and Leftwich isn’t that great.



That’s a matter of opinion. One has coached pro for 5 years, the other 13. The one that has coached for 13 also has many years of experience coaching college ball. The one that’s coached for 5 years has zero experience outside of that.

You keep throwing out blanket statements, but when asked to provide something more in depth, you deflect.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79428 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:05 am to
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My totally not racist take is that people making decisions with millions of dollars at stake don’t make decisions based on race. They make decisions based on how to maximize those millions of dollars.


That’s a nice thought, but it doesn’t exclude them being racist. If an NGl owner believed black people were inferior at coaching he would then believe hiring any white guy would be the best business decision right?

Also the whole “they want to win so they will hire the best guy” argument falls apart when they consistent make bad hires.

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You make decisions based on race. Because you’re an unabashed racist that supports critical race theory and thinks all black people learn the same simply because they are black. Do you wanna attempt to refute any of that, “lawyer”?


Acknowledging differences in races isn’t the same as saying one is superior to another. And you think even studying whether a different approach to teaching a culturally
Different group is more racist while defending an argument that black people fail in school simply because they are lazy.

Won’t go into this further. That’s not what this thread is about and that was hashed out months ago while you were crying about Tate. Who’s been fine.
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