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re: Jason Whitlock is going nuclear on Flores situation, says sinister plot behind lawsuit

Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:30 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:30 pm to
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No he’s not getting the job because of his legal issues in the past. Even you can figure out that you can’t have your HC having those kind of marks against him.


Mike Vrabel got arrested for assault in college, and got arrested for stealing liquor from someone’s houseboat in 2011.

Do those not count or what?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:31 pm to
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reverse racist


Wow you used the term correctly but not sure you knew you had
Posted by Gaggle
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:33 pm to
Rest assured
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:33 pm to
Bienemy has a sex charge an assault charge and multiple FTA. These happened when he was outside of college.

Vrabel I can’t comment on because I’m not an Adams family member. But the sex and assault charge is going to disqualify him
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 11:34 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:33 pm to
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Why is Leftwich such a hot name? Because they got a roster that was loaded?


Same reason young OCs for good offenses are always hot names.

Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:35 pm to
Bienemy has an assault charge but not a sexual assault charge.

Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:38 pm to
Oh I see you’re going down that road

So tell us what Leftwich did his first year as OC full time. I give him a pass for Arizona. Leftwich hasn’t shown he can build anything yet. But he will get his chance
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:39 pm to
No after he graduated he had a sex assault charge
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:40 pm to
I am Not seeing sexual assault anywhere.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:41 pm to
Colorado police once again arrested Bieniemy, then in the NFL, in September 1993. The Orlando Sentinel reported that Bieniemy allegedly grabbed a female parking attendant by the neck and threatened her.

The University of Colorado Boulder banned Bieniemy from its campus for one year as a result.


It was originally a sex assault charge. It may gotten reduced


There’s also the FTA’s that he has. That probably is more damaging because he didn’t show up to court. There’s 2 of those.
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 11:43 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:42 pm to
You can find red flags for every hire.

My whole point is you see the same red flags get overlooked for white coaches.

Matt LaFleur was trash at Tennessee and got the Packers job because he worked for McVey.

Hackett has several bad to mediocre years for the jags but got the job because he his offense looked good with Rogers.

Same red flags. Some guys have jobs some guys don’t.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:42 pm to

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Hackett
* UC Davis (2003)?Assistant linebackers coach
* Stanford (2003-2004)?Offensive/defensive assistant to the coordinators
* Stanford (2005)?Specialists/recruiting coordinator
* Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2006–2007)?Offensive quality control
* Buffalo Bills (2008–2009)?Offensive quality control
* Syracuse (2010)?Passing game coordinator/Quarterbacks/tight ends coach
* Syracuse (2011–2012)?Offensive coordinator/Quarterbacks/tight ends coach
* Buffalo Bills (2013–2014)?Offensive coordinator
* Jacksonville Jaguars (2015–2016)?Quarterbacks coach
* Jacksonville Jaguars (2016–2018)?Offensive coordinator
* Green Bay Packers (2019–2021)?Offensive coordinator



Taylor:
* Texas A&M (2008–2011)?Graduate assistant
* Miami Dolphins (2012)?Assistant quarterbacks coach
* Miami Dolphins (2013–2014)?Quarterbacks coach
* Miami Dolphins (2015)?Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
* University of Cincinnati (2016)?Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
* Los Angeles Rams (2017)?Assistant wide receivers coach
* Los Angeles Rams (2018)?Quarterbacks coach



Campbell:
* Miami Dolphins (2010)?Coaching intern
* Miami Dolphins (2011–2015)?Tight ends coach
* Miami Dolphins (2015)?Interim head coach
* New Orleans Saints (2016–2020)?Assistant head coach & tight ends coach


Leftwich:
* Arizona Cardinals (2016)?Training Camp intern helping with QBs
* Arizona Cardinals (2017–2018)?Quarterbacks coach
* Arizona Cardinals (2018)?Interim offensive coordinator
* Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2019–present)?Offensive coordinator

Posted by Gaggle
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:45 pm to
I think the solution is you cherry pick certain examples that suit your narrative, compare apples and oranges situations to support this overall complaint. And you argue and complain relentlessly, and any "other side" gets exasperated and since most don't really have any clear stake and they don't want to make the opposing arguments and observations because they'll be called racist, they just stop. So it's easier to just go along with it, relent. So more hires happen to shut you up. But you never do and just keeps growing, I think in waves. To summarize, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:48 pm to
I’m not cherry picking.

The arguement is that there are less black HC because they aren’t qualified. Well there are guys equally qualified to people being hired as HCs and they aren’t getting hired.

No one can tell me why red flags count for some guys and not other guys.
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 11:54 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30112 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:50 pm to
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Adam Gase
Matt Nagy
Joe Judge
McDaniels in Denver.


Gase is retarded, no clue why the Jets gave him a second chance, but it is the Jets.

And your only retort is that Leftwich and Bienemy should have a job? No knighting for Raheem Morris?
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30112 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:54 pm to
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Matt LaFleur was trash at Tennessee and got the Packers job because he worked for McVey.




His career record is 41-13. Seems like the Packers hired a decent guy.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79428 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:55 pm to
Raheem Morris you can at least say got a shot and wasn’t great.

He’s 21-38 as a head coach.

It’s about opportunities and whether these coaches are getting overlooked within a meritocracy.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30112 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:57 pm to
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Well there are guys equally qualified to people being hired as HCs and they aren’t getting hired.


Based on…your opinion? What makes someone qualified? Is it length of time served? As someone pointed out, what makes Leftwich so great? FWIW, I think he deserves a chance, but he’s ridden Brady’s coattails just like many others. Brady, Gronk, Evans, Godwin…that’s a loaded offense.

The same logic to hire Leftwich is the same logic you would use to shite on McDaniels when he went to Denver.
Posted by 805tiger
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:01 am to
Texas Tiger….Sammy Tiger….How much longer are y’all going to go back and forth? lol
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79428 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:05 am to
He’s been the OC of a highly efficient offense that’s won championships. Generally that gets you a job.

Yes his QB is Tom Brady, but did that stopped BOB, McDaniels, or Weis? No.

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