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re: Is there any way to fairly criticize this game from lebron?

Posted on 6/15/15 at 1:47 am to
Posted by crewdepoo
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 1:47 am to
Lebrons a ball hog
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 6:12 am to
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I find it very hard to believe that the greatest player to EVER play has never been on a team that has finished in the top 15...Also he's been in the league over 10 years and 3 different teams
Fwiw, the greatest player in the world is what you original said. That is basically always reserved for currently, now you're saying the greatest player ever, so that's 2 different things.

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Also he's been in the league over 10 years and 3 different teams.

oh its the other players fault
Aside from 4 Miami teams, tell me about all the CLE teams, give me all the great players he played with who were in their prime at the time. I'll wait.

Also, are you watching this series? Where

does the fault go, Lebron or his teammates?

Same goes for last season, where did the fault go last season?
This post was edited on 6/15/15 at 6:14 am
Posted by tiggah1981
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 6:15 am to
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2 games ago the Cavs were up 2-1 and everyone thought GS Was done


What, really?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 7:17 am to
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Is there any way to fairly criticize this game from lebron?


Yes. He should have gone for 55 or 60 points, guarded everyone on Golden State at the same time, gotten 10 or so steals... heck, if he is the GOAT, he should have gone for the only-ever-happened-in-a-girls-high-school-game quintuple double. GOAT my rear end.


/sarcasm
Posted by OneFifty
No favorite team now
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 7:43 am to
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Aside from 4 Miami teams, tell me about all the CLE teams, give me all the great players he played with who were in their prime at the time. I'll wait.

Serious question, because it's been bantered around. Should they work to keep Kevin Love? Because after 3 games, it was thought by many that he was expendable because of the play of Thompson combined with the efforts of Smith and Shumpert. Personally, I thought Love was a crucial key during the 2nd half of the season and up until his injury in the playoffs. He may not be great guarding players, but he's tough on the boards and as Cleveland has discovered, it's always good to have another player who can drop 30+ points.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5254 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 1:46 pm to
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shite, maybe KD can go to the 76ers, make it to the playoffs a few times maybe and jack up 45 shots a game and average 42/12/8 a game and then he'll be the GOAT in 4-5 years


Yeh, because having made the finals once in his entire career playing with Russel Westbrook, Serge Ibaka, and James Harden is the same as sweeping the 60 win Hawks and holding serve through 5 games(2 wins through 2 home games) with JR Smith, Iman Shumpert, and Tristain Thompson against one of the best teams ever.

I don't think a single person has said that if KD went to the 76ers and had the aforementioned success, he wouldn't be in the discussion for GOAT. But he has nowhere close to the capabilities required to do that, so what is your point?

If Tony Romo went to the Raiders and led them to 4 Super Bowls while putting up incredible stats, I think most would also start talking about him as GOAT in a few years. Ain't gonna happen though.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5254 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 1:52 pm to
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Stats Dont mean shite if they did then the hawks would be playing GS.


At the start of the series, the Cavs had a better winning percentage in games that Lebron played in than the Hawks, so no..... Maybe if you ignore the fact that Lebron took a 10 game break in the middle of the season. But that's kinda the whole point of this thread. How useless the team is besides him and how good he is.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 2:04 pm to
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I find it very hard to believe that the greatest player to EVER play has never been on a team that has finished in the top 15...Also he's been in the league over 10 years and 3 different teams.


And yet old timers still hate Lebron to this day because he went to the Heat who were soooooo stacked.
Posted by UnoMe
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 3:35 pm to
Defined old timer?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
67133 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 3:57 pm to
Those 18 to 80 year olds on here that act like old bitches.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 4:09 pm to
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Lebrons a ball hog


I don't think he's a ball hog (because I'd be feeding my best player the ball as much as possible too if I was a NBA coach) but the amount of iso the Cavs run is absurd and can't be successfully sustained in a 7 game series against a team like GS. They gotta move the ball and run some pick and roll with the Russian some if they have a chance of winning Game 6.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29133 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 4:17 pm to


Is the guy arguing that GS is one of the all-time great teams ... even watching the games?


An all-time great team would not struggle to beat LBJ + Jack & Shiite.


Hell ... the fricking Grizzlies gave GS all they wanted.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
48133 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 4:37 pm to
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Is the guy arguing that GS is one of the all-time great teams ... even watching the games?


let's see. they breezed through the West.

they can't be beat at home. they're deep, with the league MVP.

all-time great teams are determined by 100+ games of sample size against the whole league, not because they struggled against the last opponent.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111282 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 4:40 pm to
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Serious question, because it's been bantered around. Should they work to keep Kevin Love? Because after 3 games, it was thought by many that he was expendable because of the play of Thompson combined with the efforts of Smith and Shumpert. Personally, I thought Love was a crucial key during the 2nd half of the season and up until his injury in the playoffs. He may not be great guarding players, but he's tough on the boards and as Cleveland has discovered, it's always good to have another player who can drop 30+ points.
Yes, absolutely. You'd give up Thompson for Love in this series 1000 out of 1000 times.

He's a guy who can create offense and spread the floor. Cavs have no one else that can do that right now, not to mention, they would have a competent offensive player for when Lebron sits, so they wouldn't shoot 18% with Bron on the bench, which would allow him to sit more and have more engergy late in games.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111282 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 4:44 pm to
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Hell ... the fricking Grizzlies gave GS all they wanted.
MEM is good.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 4:56 pm to
And imagine them being healthier than they were.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29133 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

let's see. they breezed through the West.



GS 4 MEM 2



quote:

they can't be beat at home.



Except when 1 dude beat them by himself.


quote:

they're deep, with the league MVP


Regular season MVP. The MVP is #23 for the Cavs and any objective person would easily see that.
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