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re: Is there actually parity in the NBA?
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:00 am to lsutigers1992
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:00 am to lsutigers1992
quote:People like you are hilarious. So there was a conspiracy to make the Bulls go from a shitty franchise to amazing by drafting Jordan in 1984. How exactly does that conspiracy theory work? It's been like 15 years since the Knicks were even close to the Finals. And now it's a NBA conspiracy that the best player in the league is capable of taking his team to the Finals multiple times. I suppose it was an NBA conspiracy for the Lakers to get eliminated in the first round to the small market Spurs?
Go through Stern's tenure and look at how many NBA Finals do not include a team from one of the top three TV markets, the Celtics, or a team led by LeBron James and get back to me.
I do not understand this concept where all evidence for something proves the event exists, but all evidence to the contrary is meaningless and ignored. As others have pointed out, good management is capable of building a good franchise, regardless of the sport. And bad management will consistently build a bad franchise, regardless of the sport. This is not a new concept.
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:11 am to Broski
You measure parity by the variance between the top and bottom teams during the regular season, not by the small sample size of the top teams in playoff series.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:13 am to BayouBengals03
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Before last year, 7 teams had won an NBA title in the last 28 years.
And only 3 teams had won the Western Conference in the last 13 years.
Too bad that's a terrible way to measure parity.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:14 am to Broski
It's a parody of parity
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:17 am to lsutigers1992
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In the NBA, the only way for a shitty team to get good is to get lucky in the lottery and hope you win it all before he signs with the Lakers.
I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment, but I just found this really funny.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:33 am to jturn17
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People like you are hilarious. So there was a conspiracy to make the Bulls go from a shitty franchise to amazing by drafting Jordan in 1984.
You're missing the point. Mike would have been like LeBron. He would have been in Portland for those first 4 or 5 years, and then he would have signed with or have been traded to the Knicks. Because "the NBA is better when the Knicks are good."
It happened with Shaq. It happened with Garnett. It happened with CP3. It happened with Dwight Howard. It happened with Melo.
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 8:35 am
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:17 am to lsutigers1992
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It happened with Shaq. It happened with Garnett. It happened with CP3. It happened with Dwight Howard. It happened with Melo.
Shaq-played out his contract signed where he wanted to. Can't fault the NBA for free agency rights. Hell they have done more to protect small market teams lately
Garnett- stayed well past the T-Wolves contending chances, it was mutual separation.
CP3- bitch move, doesn't get enough shite for it.
Dwight- also a bitch move, he misplayed it.
Melo- a bitch move, but the Nuggets won that trade. The Knicks are still in the playoffs, but they wouldn't be in the Western Conference. Melo's not a winner unless you surround the team with pass happy vets and committed defenders.
There are a lot factors that lead to players jumping to certain teams, but committed ownership has a lot to do with it.
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 9:19 am
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:20 am to Broski
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Is there actually parity in the NBA?
At the 2/3/4 Yeah there is a good bit.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:36 am to CajunFootball
Dallas vs heat in 2006 didn't involve a top 3 tv market or lebron. But couldn't basically say the same thing be said about football when it comes to elite QB's? That's like 90% of being good. Also, yes it is easier to do a turnaround in the nfl than the nba, but look at this year you have Golden State, Memphis, OKC, Pacers, even the Spurs who all have an outside shot at the finals and they're small markets who built their teams through the draft and smart mid level signings
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 9:37 am
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:39 am to tigerfan88
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Golden State, Memphis, OKC, Pacers, even the Spurs who all have an outside shot at the finals
Exactly. No one cares about the finals...it's all about championships. None of those teams stand a real chance at beating the Heat in 7 games. They make take 2 games, but that's a best chance scenario.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:10 am to CajunFootball
Then blame the best of 7 compared to the elimination format of the nfl playoffs. In the nba the best team is supposed to win, in the nfl it's the hottest team or the luckiest team just as often as the best. Also blame the nature of the sport. With so much scoring and so many possessions there's a lot of time for the better team to assert themselves. Compared to hockey or baseball or soccer where it's low scoring nature makes it easier for a couple of fluke plays to decide a game
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:17 am to tigerfan88
I'm not sure how you got into this discussion with me, but oh well. The topic is about parity which the NBA doesn't have. There is only one real team that is going for the title, and it is theirs to lose. In the NFL you know going into this upcoming season you have a handful of teams (NE,DEN,SF,GB,ETC) who have a legit chance. It's not the playoff system that is too blame it's the fact that you have Lebron, Wade, and Bosh on a team and no one else can really compete.
If you blame the playoff system then you would have eliminated the Heat from the playoffs after the game one loss against the Bulls, last year in the finals against the Thunder, etc etc. It's not the system per se.
If you blame the playoff system then you would have eliminated the Heat from the playoffs after the game one loss against the Bulls, last year in the finals against the Thunder, etc etc. It's not the system per se.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:32 pm to CajunFootball
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NFL you know going into this upcoming season you have a handful of teams (NE,DEN,SF,GB,ETC) who have a legit chance
on any given sunday, not best of seven. For instance, the more talented team in the Super Bowl lost but would be favored to win a best of seven.
There are plenty of trios capable of winning one game in the NBA against the Heat. LeBron is clearly head and shoulders above the rest, but his teammates aren't. As a matter of fact the Thunder might have had the next 3 best players in the Finals last year depending on your view on Wade. The Thunder got out-coached in that series, it wasn't a manpower issue.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:30 pm to CajunFootball
you just defeated your own argument. It is the the playoff format. You just said of the nba had a one game elimination the heat would've lost to the thunder last year and the bulls last year. In the NBA, just like every other professional sport, any team can beat any other on any given day. But a worse team is not going to beat a better team 4 out of 7 times, except in rare circumstances
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:39 pm to Broski
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This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:56 pm to Broski
No the only time the NBA has ever had parity is when Walton got hurt(Bullets and Sonics won) and when MJ retired(Rockets won)
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:14 am to RonBurgundy
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CP3- bitch move, doesn't get enough shite for it
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:16 am to lsutigers1992
quote:Players like to play in big markets, not sure what that has to do with Stern.
Go through Stern's tenure and look at how many NBA Finals do not include a team from one of the top three TV markets, the Celtics, or a team led by LeBron James and get back to me
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:17 am to shel311
Also, if parity was truly the goal, max contracts would be eliminated and the market would decide what a guy like Lebron is worth, and all of the superstars would be dispersed on different teams throughout the league.
But parity is not good for the league.
But parity is not good for the league.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:33 am to shel311
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But parity is not good for the league
This.
Golden Age of the 80s everyone longs for was quite similar to what we see today in terms of parity
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