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re: Is Sean Payton over rated?
Posted on 10/18/14 at 4:44 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 10/18/14 at 4:44 pm to Lester Earl
4-12 since the beginning of last year on the road. It's embarrassing
Other great teams don't lose like that on the road and have the ability to go out and humiliate a team in their own building
We can't even beat some of the shittyest teams in their own house dating back to Arizona 2010
Other great teams don't lose like that on the road and have the ability to go out and humiliate a team in their own building
We can't even beat some of the shittyest teams in their own house dating back to Arizona 2010
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Posted on 10/18/14 at 4:46 pm to SirWinston
He also has many games where most teams are getting spanked and wouldn't come back but so many times Saints have, because of his aggressiveness. His cute plays cost him many times but have won him much more imo.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 4:48 pm to windshieldman
Any head coach is only as good as his assistants.
If he can't (well won't even attempt) to hire competent assistants that falls on him
The second we hired Rob we should have hired an experienced coach good with 3-4 linebackers.
Our D-Line coach and ST coach should have been fired a long time ago also. This is Sean Payton's fault and it falls squarely on him.
If he can't (well won't even attempt) to hire competent assistants that falls on him
The second we hired Rob we should have hired an experienced coach good with 3-4 linebackers.
Our D-Line coach and ST coach should have been fired a long time ago also. This is Sean Payton's fault and it falls squarely on him.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 4:49 pm to SirWinston
So you dont blame the defense at all in any of those games?
NE was on the defense (had lead with 2:00 left)
CLE this year was on Defense, blown coverage (yes we should have ran more that game)
ATL was on the defense (had a lead with 1:24 left)
CAR was on DEF (had lead with under a minute)
But yea, it was all the offense's fault. In a few of those games they NEEDED a touchdown to win, and they got it. Which is not a good look for the defense.
NE was on the defense (had lead with 2:00 left)
CLE this year was on Defense, blown coverage (yes we should have ran more that game)
ATL was on the defense (had a lead with 1:24 left)
CAR was on DEF (had lead with under a minute)
But yea, it was all the offense's fault. In a few of those games they NEEDED a touchdown to win, and they got it. Which is not a good look for the defense.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 4:52 pm to hikingfan
I think he is appropriately rated.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 4:53 pm to Brandincookem
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4-12 since the beginning of last year on the road. It's embarrassing
Let's see, we played 8 road games last year, and 3 this year. Somehow you're math doesnt add up, but im not surprised.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 4:58 pm to Lester Earl
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NE was on the defense (had lead with 2:00 left)
Stopped them twice under like 4 minutes. Keenan had a pick and a quick 3 and out, get some fricking points or at least a few 1st downs and close the game. We had like 9 yards on our last 2 drives total.
Offense blew it, Brady made his name off that you dont keep giving him the ball and expecting to win
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CLE this year was on Defense, blown coverage (yes we should have ran more that game)
Same a few 1st downs or some points would have iced it. Great teams bury the other team. On top of that Brees gave them 7 points.
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ATL was on the defense (had a lead with 1:24 left)
Somewhat true. How about getting 7 instead of 3 and closing the game though? How about Brees not throw a pick in our redzone? That 3 could have went a long way.
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CAR was on DEF (had lead with under a minute)
Defense gave up 17 points. How about our great offense and supposedly elite QB get us more than 13 points?
Offense has been fricking up badly, can't close a game for shite
This post was edited on 10/18/14 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 10/18/14 at 4:59 pm to Lester Earl
4-9 doesn't sound much better
Posted on 10/18/14 at 5:02 pm to Brandincookem
So our great ground game should be able to ice games, right?
But they can't.
Then if we try and pass, and the clock stops, you still complain.
It's a lose/lose.
The defense directly lost every one of those games, it's not even really arguable.
Carolina had the best DEF in the league last year arguably. 13 was enough to win that game for 59minutes. CAnt really ask for more, on the road, against the leagues best D
But they can't.
Then if we try and pass, and the clock stops, you still complain.
It's a lose/lose.
The defense directly lost every one of those games, it's not even really arguable.
Carolina had the best DEF in the league last year arguably. 13 was enough to win that game for 59minutes. CAnt really ask for more, on the road, against the leagues best D
Posted on 10/18/14 at 5:02 pm to hikingfan
For a team to play as bad as they do on the road and then turn around and play well at home is literally mind boggling.
I really do believe it has become psychological for Payton and the team over the past few years.
I really do believe it has become psychological for Payton and the team over the past few years.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 5:07 pm to Lester Earl
Get off your knees and wipe your mouth, your one of those guys who won't blame Brees and Payton for anything
I'm a saints fan before I'm a Brees/Payton/ (insert player) fan
They can't close games. Peyton Manning can go anywhere and destroy you
Aaron Rodgers can go anywhere and destroy you
Tom Brady can go anywhere and destroy you
And Drew Brees can only be great inside of his dome. Sad facts
I'm a saints fan before I'm a Brees/Payton/ (insert player) fan
They can't close games. Peyton Manning can go anywhere and destroy you
Aaron Rodgers can go anywhere and destroy you
Tom Brady can go anywhere and destroy you
And Drew Brees can only be great inside of his dome. Sad facts
Posted on 10/18/14 at 5:09 pm to Brandincookem
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They can't close games. Peyton Manning can go anywhere and destroy you
Except at the Super Bowl.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 5:11 pm to Brandincookem
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Get off your knees and wipe your mouth, your one of those guys who won't blame Brees and Payton for anything
i acknowledge when they frick up. I also acknowledge that they are top 5 in their respective fields, despite mistakes.
Players and coaches aren't perfect. You have no perspective. Watch some more football, buddy.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 5:19 pm to Lester Earl
Agreed.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 5:21 pm to Brandincookem
you tell me who you're an alter for and I'll back you up
Posted on 10/18/14 at 5:22 pm to Brandincookem
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They can't close games. Peyton Manning can go anywhere and destroy you
Aaron Rodgers can go anywhere and destroy you
Tom Brady can go anywhere and destroy you
And Drew Brees can only be great inside of his dome. Sad facts
Oh no! We have the 4th best QB in the league!!!
Brees has a better road win % than Rodgers fwiw
Posted on 10/18/14 at 5:26 pm to Brandincookem
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Drew Brees can only be great inside of his dome.
For what it's worth, he is 50-46 on the road for his career.
So he is still a winner.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 5:28 pm to Kafka
I'm new. A multiple SR reject for not lapping up everything the saints do. I'm not homer enough for that board. Got banned at one point for saying chris ivory was better than Ingram
Banned for beating a dead horse or some stupid shite like that. Oh and agreeing that Brees' arm is declining and Meachem is a bum
Posted on 10/18/14 at 5:29 pm to Tactical1
don't know it was that bad. It will only get worsePosted on 10/18/14 at 5:32 pm to Brandincookem
And your boy who can destroy anyone anywhere, Peyton Manning is 78-44 on the road, only two losses behind Drew, with a 3 season head start.
This post was edited on 10/18/14 at 5:34 pm
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