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Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:29 pm to Patton
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Is he worth it?
Was Drew Brees?
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:31 pm to SammyTiger
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If they find a serviceable QB they are in the playoffs.
This is the key, and if you've paid attention the past few years you know that's a big IF. No one would gamble and get rid of him when finding a "serviceable QB" is hard as frick.
Plus teams are smart about contract structures, people get caught up in the numbers without looking at the whole contract.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:31 pm to Walking the Earth
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Most of the teams have the hang of the cap by now so they'll be able to keep most of the people they want to keep.
and most teams aren't better once 20 million is tied up in 1 player.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:31 pm to lsupride87
1,813 attempts
1,062 completions
58.6%
12,957 yards
269.9 yds/game
86 TDs
43 INT
86.6 rating
With no RB, one elite WR and no defense.
1,062 completions
58.6%
12,957 yards
269.9 yds/game
86 TDs
43 INT
86.6 rating
With no RB, one elite WR and no defense.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:31 pm to Roger Klarvin
I hope Seattle pays him the biggest contract for anything ever in the history of the universe. Just means their team will barely be a wildcard team.
They will lose $19 million worth of players (mostly defense I'm sure). Add to that, Lynch could potentially retire sooner than we think.
Then we will see how great Wilson is.
He is a serviceable, competent QB for Seattle. "Serviceable" and "competent" are not worth $20 million.
Seattle could go out and find that for half the price, if not less and still be contenders every year with that defense and run game.
They will lose $19 million worth of players (mostly defense I'm sure). Add to that, Lynch could potentially retire sooner than we think.
Then we will see how great Wilson is.
He is a serviceable, competent QB for Seattle. "Serviceable" and "competent" are not worth $20 million.
Seattle could go out and find that for half the price, if not less and still be contenders every year with that defense and run game.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:32 pm to castorinho
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This is the key, and if you've paid attention the past few years you know that's a big IF. No one would gamble and get rid of him when finding a "serviceable QB" is hard as frick.
Exactly. We live in a world where Blake Bortles and Johnny Manziel went in the first round.
Marcus Mariotta and Jameis Winston, despite a ton of questions about them, are going high in this year's draft.
Seattle is going to stick with Wilson until he demonstrably starts really sucking and he will be getting paid.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:33 pm to graychef
quote:That isnt as good as Wilson at all. So you lose
1,813 attempts
1,062 completions
58.6%
12,957 yards
269.9 yds/game
86 TDs
43 INT
86.6 rating
With no RB, one elite WR and no defense.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:34 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
and most teams aren't better once 20 million is tied up in 1 player.
True but that's a bridge that they have to cross sooner or later. They have to break out the checkbook sooner or later. No team escapes that.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:35 pm to lsupride87
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This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 7:14 am
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:36 pm to graychef
quote:Wilson
1,813 attempts
1,062 completions
58.6%
12,957 yards
269.9 yds/game
86 TDs
43 INT
86.6 rating
63% completion
9,950 passing yards, 1877 rushing yards
83 tds
26 ints
97 rating
one elite RB, no WRs
This post was edited on 1/10/15 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:36 pm to dcrews
Russell Wilson is a modern day version of Terry Bradshaw with more mobility.
Anyone ever actually looked up Bradshaw's numbers? There is absolutely no reason he should be anywhere near the HOF. He was an average player on a team stacked with talent everywhere else.
Now Wilson has better numbers due to the nature of the league these days and what defenses are allowed to do versus back then, but he is also an average to slightly above-average QB who has a great offensive line, running back and an all-time defense.
Seattle is the kind of team that the Trent Dilers and Brad Johnsons of the world win Superbowls on.
Anyone ever actually looked up Bradshaw's numbers? There is absolutely no reason he should be anywhere near the HOF. He was an average player on a team stacked with talent everywhere else.
Now Wilson has better numbers due to the nature of the league these days and what defenses are allowed to do versus back then, but he is also an average to slightly above-average QB who has a great offensive line, running back and an all-time defense.
Seattle is the kind of team that the Trent Dilers and Brad Johnsons of the world win Superbowls on.
This post was edited on 1/10/15 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:37 pm to graychef
quote:Aaaron rodgers stats his first three years in the NFL
Not even a comparison? Have you seen Aaron Rodgers's stats from 2008-2010?
300 yards
1 td
1 int
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:38 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:So ignorant WIlson gets named in the same breath as these two
Seattle is the kind of team that the Trent Dilers and Brad Johnsons of the world win Superbowls on.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:38 pm to lsupride87
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This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 7:14 am
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:39 pm to lsupride87
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This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 7:13 am
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:40 pm to graychef
quote:Not necessarily, but it is no argument Wilsons first three years are better
So taking the QBs off each team to START A FRANCHISE, you'd choose Wilson over the QB I showed?
This post was edited on 1/10/15 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:41 pm to graychef
quote:ok. I said first three years in the NFL. So why are you bringing up a Qbs stats in year 4-6 frickhead?
frickhead. He sat behind Favre. I said 08-10.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:43 pm to lsupride87
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So ignorant WIlson gets named in the same breath as these two
Wilson is obviously better than both, that wasn't my point. My point was that the Seahawks winning a title isn't indicative of Wilson's skill level, because Seattle wins like the Bucs and Ravens of the early 2000s.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:46 pm to lsupride87
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This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 7:13 am
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