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re: Is MLB becoming irrelevant in today's "Media culture"?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:55 am to RedRifle
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:55 am to RedRifle
Pitching has become too dominant. Not enough home run hitters.
I mean, it seems like there is never an upper deck home run anymore.
In the 90's, upper Deckers were the norm.
I mean, it seems like there is never an upper deck home run anymore.
In the 90's, upper Deckers were the norm.
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:58 am to PrimeTime Money
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I mean, it seems like there is never an upper deck home run anymore.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:08 am to RedRifle
This is a thread that includes mostly people from a state where there is no MLB team, and they are claiming that a sport whose annual revenue is on the cusp of passing $9billlion for the first time ever is dying.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:44 am to ballscaster
I don't think baseball is dying. It seems stronger than ever right now.
When ratings in New York/Boston/LA/Chicaco start dipping, that's when they need to start worrying. They could care less about the Brewers and the Royals. It's a big market sport that caters to its big market teams.
When ratings in New York/Boston/LA/Chicaco start dipping, that's when they need to start worrying. They could care less about the Brewers and the Royals. It's a big market sport that caters to its big market teams.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:47 am to ballscaster
TV revenue is different. I know money is money, but almost every sport's televesion revenue has gone up in the last 5-10 years. The point was that it simply doesn't garner much interest to bring into the media conversation cycle the same way that it did in the past unless there is some sort of scandal.
National interest has diminished enough that it is considered less popular than college football and the NBA. That's a pretty significant drop from where it once was.
National interest has diminished enough that it is considered less popular than college football and the NBA. That's a pretty significant drop from where it once was.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:01 pm to stevo1905
quote:Then where's all that money coming from?
National interest has diminished enough that it is considered less popular than college football and the NBA. That's a pretty significant drop from where it once was.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:06 pm to stevo1905
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National interest has diminished
well i think baseball has always been a regional thing. National TV or exposure has never been what drove it, hence the regional tv contracts and discussion in those markets.
If you're taking about what the national media covers and what it doesn't as being a marker for success and importance to fans then yea, baseball is somewhere below illegitimate children and DUIs.
I find it odd to say its interest has dwindled considering it does have its own show on espn and its own network, not to mention the stupid money that is being thrown around for regional tv rights for the games.
And i fully suspect it's more popular than college football.
ETA: Yea that's not true about college football being more popular.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:09 pm to ballscaster
It's losing interest among young people... the most important demographic.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:10 pm to PrimeTime Money
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It's losing interest among young people... the most important demographic.
should be losing money then too...no?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:25 pm to piggidyphish
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I find it odd to say its interest has dwindled considering it does have its own show on espn and its own network,
Texas has it's own network
the NHL has it's own network
Golf has it's own network
Tennis has it's own network
Right now is when baseball is getting good, yet there's only three areas of the country that have any interest whatsoever in what happens in baseball. LA, SanFran/Oakland, and Missouri. Bringing up baseball on the radio or tv right now outside of those 3 areas causes callers to call in and say shut up and talk about football.
Baseball has done great at getting these huge tv deals.
I have a feeling some of those deals won't be able to honor their payments. The Astros are an example of that already. They have themselves to blame for that, with the shitty product they've put on the field last few years.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:31 pm to piggidyphish
No, not necessarily. They make money through TV deals which are always going up.
They may not be losing money yet, but in the future it will continue to get harder to get big TV deals.
They may not be losing money yet, but in the future it will continue to get harder to get big TV deals.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:34 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Bringing up baseball on the radio or tv right now outside of those 3 areas causes callers to call in and say shut up and talk about football.
bringing baseball up on the radio no matter what time on a national show should cause callers to call in and say shut the frick up. It's not meant to be consumed that way. There isn't a build up that lends itself to talk about all week. They played last night, they'll play tonight, and again tomorrow. What are you going to talk about?
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Right now is when baseball is getting good
Baseball races are getting good right now...it was always good. So you're telling me in pittsburg they don't care right now?
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Texas has it's own network
the NHL has it's own network
Golf has it's own network
Tennis has it's own network
Guess it's a good thing i never said those things don't draw interest.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:34 pm to PrimeTime Money
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They may not be losing money yet, but in the future it will continue to get harder to get big TV deals.
Seems speculative. Maybe you're right. I respectfully disagree though.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:42 pm to GaBassFisher92
on the radio the other day they were asking people to name the top 5 players in Baseball. People couldn't even name 5....
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:44 pm to theone
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n the radio the other day they were asking people to name the top 5 players in Baseball. People couldn't even name 5....
on the radio the other day a guy submitted a clip of him pretending to be william wallace saying that alabama may not take victory from florida?
Whats your point?
Radio shows are geared for an audience, so if that's not their target why would they know about it?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:50 pm to piggidyphish
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So you're telling me in pittsburg they don't care right now?
I bet they care more about Penn State and the Steelers, right now.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:52 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I bet they care more about Penn State and the Steelers, right now.
Has anyone said that baseball is more popular than the NFL? Because unless that statement has been made then why wouldn't they care more about the steelers. As for the penn state thing. surely you jest.
Just in case you want to peek at the newspapers sports page.
LINK
either way, your statement was outside of the 3 named markets you chose, no one cares. So they shouldn't care...right?
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:06 pm to piggidyphish
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should be losing money then too...no?
I thought I read recently that it is doing really well in local TV ratings. So, whatever national Nielsen number for a game isn't all that important if everyone is at least watching their local telecasts.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:10 pm to RedRifle
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Is MLB becoming irrelevant
What do you mean becoming?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:11 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I thought I read recently that it is doing really well in local TV ratings. So, whatever national Nielsen number for a game isn't all that important if everyone is at least watching their local telecasts.
You did. I don't think a lot of people grasp that that is how baseball is consumed.
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